FloridaOranges, Gricey, Maxy, Ph8, and Skill vote against this, when there is no way that they can deny that hours on facebook were much much easier than on the regular server, as it has been said, its not too late, while i would have liked to do something that only divided the hours of facebook guilds, the lack of records now makes it impossible, sadly the only way to correct this is to reset the facebook guilds, just go and reset all of them on the list that are from facebook, unfortunatly there is now not any other way to fix it.

i admit yes it took facebook guilds some effort, but gaining towers on the facebook server was basically abusing the lack of player account, like when a tower was held during a time the server was broken and no one could connect back on so the guild got hours because so few players were still online. they took away the hours gained from the low player count. so in this case they should make the same decision on that precedent.

if you ever believed that the facebook hours would become equal to the classic hours you are simply lying to keep the unfair hours, and we all know it.

ill ask Rufus, maybe he can talk to Xor.  

Posted by Higbey

FloridaOranges, Gricey, Maxy, Ph8, and Skill vote against this, when there is no way that they can deny that hours on facebook were much much easier than on the regular server, as it has been said, its not too late, while i would have liked to do something that only divided the hours of facebook guilds, the lack of records now makes it impossible, sadly the only way to correct this is to reset the facebook guilds, just go and reset all of them on the list that are from facebook, unfortunatly there is now not any other way to fix it.

You cant just delete all FB guilds, some of them also had a good amount of hours on iPhone, like Helsing for example. With no records how do you know how far back to reset them?

I agree it was easy as hell on facebook, but everyone had the ability to go on there and get easy hours, its not unfair to me.  

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Posted by Higbey

FloridaOranges, Gricey, Maxy, Ph8, and Skill vote against this, when there is no way that they can deny that hours on facebook were much much easier than on the regular server, as it has been said, its not too late, while i would have liked to do something that only divided the hours of facebook guilds, the lack of records now makes it impossible, sadly the only way to correct this is to reset the facebook guilds, just go and reset all of them on the list that are from facebook, unfortunatly there is now not any other way to fix it.

i admit yes it took facebook guilds some effort, but gaining towers on the facebook server was basically abusing the lack of player account, like when a tower was held during a time the server was broken and no one could connect back on so the guild got hours because so few players were still online. they took away the hours gained from the low player count. so in this case they should make the same decision on that precedent.

if you ever believed that the facebook hours would become equal to the classic hours you are simply lying to keep the unfair hours, and we all know it.

ill ask Rufus, maybe he can talk to Xor.

there was no one to recruit on FB so it was hard to make a guild that takes towers on there.  

Posted by Skill

there was no one to recruit on FB so it was hard to make a guild that takes towers on there.

People got a bunch of friends from iphone and got 1k in 3-4 weeks to get there hat than they stopped... I highly doubt many will care if leaderboard is fixed, they got what they wanted. And there was always a mini pack of players around unstuck if you really wanted fb recruits.  

I'll care Goten. Several times our guild Fatal tried for 5k on fb so no not everyone went for 1k. And as someone else said, we had hours on classic and with no records resetting us would be extremely unfair. And if you didn't reset us all the other fb guilds would rage, so just leave it as it is you will get over this eventually.  

Posted by Rexx

You cant just delete all FB guilds, some of them also had a good amount of hours on iPhone, like Helsing for example. With no records how do you know how far back to reset them?

I agree it was easy as hell on facebook, but everyone had the ability to go on there and get easy hours, its not unfair to me.

well if hours from the facebook guilds were added to the iphone guilds it will be logged, im just saying the facebook guilds on there need to be deleted also,

or just reset the ones that got unfair hours, unfortunatly if theres not exact records its the staffs fault, but just because they were careless doesnt mean they dont need to fix this problem just because the only solution left is overkill because of their carelessness.

Posted by Madhog

I'll care Goten. Several times our guild Fatal tried for 5k on fb so no not everyone went for 1k. And as someone else said, we had hours on classic and with no records resetting us would be extremely unfair. And if you didn't reset us all the other fb guilds would rage, so just leave it as it is you will get over this eventually.

well, as now it is even more unfair, since the facebook server was used to abuse basically, and as the staff were careless and didnt keep records, unfortunatly deleting is all they can do, but you will get over this eventually, right?  

Easy solution just let the FB gangs keep their beloved hats, but only give them 1/4 their time.  

Posted by Bandit

Easy solution just let the FB gangs keep their beloved hats, but only give them 1/4 their time.

unfortunatly as they said the staff were careless and didnt keep records or wait and listen to the uproar, so there is no records of how much they had, while i agree, they can keep their hats, the only way to fix and make it fair is to delete it all, i wish there was a way to just fairly fix it or only minus the facebook time from the merged guilds, so the only thing left is reseting  

First of all that was idiotic that they did not keep records, also I bet that people have pictures of FB scores over 1000. Just cut their scores down and any gang that doesn't have any pictures can just be deleted.  

Posted by Madhog

I'll care Goten. Several times our guild Fatal tried for 5k on fb so no not everyone went for 1k. And as someone else said, we had hours on classic and with no records resetting us would be extremely unfair. And if you didn't reset us all the other fb guilds would rage, so just leave it as it is you will get over this eventually.

I never said that. Guilds like fatal and helsing would only get there fb hours removed. Almost everyone knows fatal and helsing were mainly iphone guilds, I highly doubt there'd be complaints about you guys not getting a full reset.  

No Higeby that isn't the only thing. You could just leave it for x amount of time and see if people are still angry about it. The leaderboards will end up like this anyway so what will you do then? Delete them all? No. This is once again a total disregard for people's feelings. Just because you believe these guilds did no work for these hours does not mean you can lord over them. If you do this you are basically saying "oh you got hours on fb? Well **** you cause you aren't important, and we are!" if you are going to take this approach why not delete Cruxis? They are inactive. Or are you going to give special treatment cause "they worked hard". No matter what you may think these guilds still had to work for hours and they do not deserve to be treated like minority's. This is actually a form of discrimination and I for one will not stand idly by and let this happen. These guilds deserve the same treatment and respect of any other guild no matter what they have done to get their hours. All guilds have worked for their hours so all guilds should be treated the same. Or are you all more like the pigs from Orwell's Animal Farm? "all guilds are equal but some are more equal than others"?

Posted by GotenGraal

I never said that. Guilds like fatal and helsing would only get there fb hours removed. Almost everyone knows fatal and helsing were mainly iphone guilds, I highly doubt there'd be complaints about you guys not getting a full reset.

In case you missed it, there no hour records so there is no way to do this. It's either no reset or full reset.  

Madhog your the one being one-sided. Facebook towers were a joke. Btw I can come up with many analogies like you keep doing, so doesn't really do much to your point.  

i never said any of that, please remain objective and not go political over this, i said that yes, they did work, but since its shown that it was much easier than iphone towers, and since there is only two choices, and we have been waiting and its been a problem and still isnt addressed, theres really only one choice to make it fair, personally i feel its the staffs fault for not keeping records on something so big, what a major **** up that was.  

No I understand were you guys are coming from. Admittedly if it was me I would be mad. But I'm pretty sure I would get over it considering the fact this will happen no matter what, the only difference is what guilds are clogging up the leaderboards. I am pretty sure people will calm down after a while. And actually I want to know something. A lot of you guys posting guilds were pretty inactive before the merge. In fact a lot of you just got 1k then stopped. So why are you getting all mad now? You were doing the exact same thing a lot of these fb guilds are doing and you didn't complain then. The fact is your all annoyed because you got pushed down a few spots. And if these guilds are deleted/reset or whatever a lot of you probably won't even take towers. You will just replace the fb guilds in clogging up the leaderboards. There will always be guilds doing this just deal with it.

Posted by Higbey

i never said any of that, please remain objective and not go political over this, i said that yes, they did work, but since its shown that it was much easier than iphone towers, and since there is only two choices, and we have been waiting and its been a problem and still isnt addressed, theres really only one choice to make it fair, personally i feel its the staffs fault for not keeping records on something so big, what a major **** up that was.

Only part of it was directed to you :0 sorry if I didn't make that clear!