It's primarily because of the fact they lag a entire area making it impossible to get across or simply unnecessarily hard to get through. And they also can make it extremely laggy as well, Doesn't help the fact that this isn't no 20 minute thing usually, do last 10-30 hours sometimes even a week. Making it hard to get past during that time.

Like 4-Lom said it would make a bit more sense and add more credibility if they would tower or something but they always do smack talk and act rather like a ***** if your in their "territory", even if your not a military person. Which is why I asked for a military system to be made.

And don't get me wrong, I don't mind them doing their own thing for enjoyment, Or whatever, Hell even I was in a military before I left due to I felt so cringe'd about it and have a life outside of graal where I can't spend 8 hours doing war **** every few days or even weeks. It's just it gets a bit nonsense when they make a simple 3 minute job of selling your shields and sword loot and stuff at snowtown and make it a 45 minute job because you can't get past the Pk fest they put right outside

Posted by Westbrook Graal

Theyre having fun in a game which lacks for fun content. You can think they're cringe or not, but its a large group of players making the best out of a bad situation. They aren't bothering you so I don't see why its an issue. You sparring with your insane delay is probably more annoying to people then these guilds. They're having fun doing something unorthodox, and they made their own system out of a simple game. Call it whatever you want.

You act like I'm not annoyed myself with my delay, Or I enjoy it. Or let alone spar more than 2 times a month  

Posted by Westbrook Graal

Theyre having fun in a game which lacks for fun content. You can think they're cringe or not, but its a large group of players making the best out of a bad situation. They aren't bothering you so I don't see why its an issue. You sparring with your insane delay is probably more annoying to people then these guilds. They're having fun doing something unorthodox, and they made their own system out of a simple game. Call it whatever you want.

Precisely this.

Classic had always had a lack of content. Even though I hate the military community, unfortunately there's not much left to do anymore on classic. But despite the lack of gameplay, as a social game Graal excels. And with a half-decent PK system in which skill is prioritized, these Militarys are just trying to make use of it so that they can play the game they enjoy.

Again, if you don't like it, just don't bother with it. It shouldn't be hard to just walk past them, and move on with your day. They wouldn't sting you, they'd sting the enemy guild. Unless they really want pks I guess idk  

I agree with Westbrook and List's opinion on these types of guilds. I've been in a few of them and to be honest it did make Graal A LOT more enjoyable. Sure there's been 500 different guilds called "The State" and just as many players named Auel to go along with those guilds but it's nice to see someone put the RP in RPG that I don't see much of in Graal.  

I do agree it can make the game more interesting, Like I said earlier I'm not really against militaries, It's just they cause problems which is why I asked for a system specifically for military to be implanted, That way it's just a bit better, Not only for them but for everyone else so they don't spend hours doing PKing they don't get added to their account, And they don't block people's ways or make it seemingly impossible to get past. Ect  

Posted by Rusix

I do agree it can make the game more interesting, Like I said earlier I'm not really against militaries, It's just they cause problems which is why I asked for a system specifically for military to be implanted, That way it's just a bit better, Not only for them but for everyone else so they don't spend hours doing PKing they don't get added to their account, And they don't block people's ways or make it seemingly impossible to get past. Ect

They don't even need a system but if they just add a few buildings that have a sole role-playing purpose like the school in onnet or the police station. Adding a military academy, promoting the use of PK room's at places like Dozer's house could help reduce the lag. I also think for military guilds opening that underground tunnel in Fox's mansion that leads out by the police station would be cool. Adding some secret passages and hiding spots. Simple additions that enhance the role-playing aspect of the game will let players create new scenarios rather than be stuck to one method of role play.  

Posted by Perseus

1. Are they physically harming you?
2. Are they obstructing your ability to play the game so much they need banned?
3. Are they causing any more lag than the amount of people at Burger Refuge?
4. Why are you so against people taking a ****ty game and doing something they enjoy on it?

*If you answered No to most of these questions, this game bothers you too much and you need to get the heck over it.

1.) no
2.) yes, i hate lag spikes so much that i would rather walk in wet socks for the rest of my life
3.) yes, there are substantially way more people in their battles than the people outside burger refuge
4.) not a **** game, they are the ones making it ****ty  

Bruh  

Posted by Pokki

1.) no
2.) yes, i hate lag spikes so much that i would rather walk in wet socks for the rest of my life
3.) yes, there are substantially way more people in their battles than the people outside burger refuge
4.) not a **** game, they are the ones making it ****ty

1. K
2. I don't believe the lag is any worse than Graal City imo
3. Not a chance in hell lmao
4. Are we talking about the same game

 

Posted by Bryan*

Bruh

Hey I see me!  

Still better roleplayers than those god awful cringeworthy babies and their parents  

Should make some type of “headquarters” for them in like MoD Town or something where they can stay, like the adoption center that was made for all the babies. The lag does get a bit annoying, though.  

Posted by Rusix

Anyone noticing the large increase in the already kinda cringey spar players?
Like I think we can all agree on the fact they are absolutely annoying as is, maybe Atleast build a actual system like single spar tournament for them? I shiver in absolute cringe sometimes when I see them in the battle arena or something acting all like "SST noobfus. real skill".

agree  

Posted by CM

The lag does get a bit annoying, though.

Especially when you already are laggy as I am, don't have much time and got to spend an almost a hour yourself just to get to the inside of the damn snow town Smith building to sell your damn maces and loot you got.

Tbh I don't see them so much making a building as making a actual military system, Because they would still keep having the same problems of causing lag, PKing in the most inconvenient of places where you can barely squeeze through or not at all  

Posted by CM

Should make some type of “headquarters” for them in like MoD Town or something where they can stay, like the adoption center that was made for all the babies. The lag does get a bit annoying, though.

This would honestly be great. Good solution that benefits everyone.  

They should rip off cod and add a place where they can play "Hardpoint" (would honestly be more fun to watch then gst)