Posted by Reemas

Way to simplify everything and make the game seem more pathetic than it really is.

hate to agree with craig but he is right in what he says, graal is at it's lowest point ever.  

sigh. i feel like he can make everyone jump off of a bridge  

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

i feel like he can make everyone jump off of a bridge

bro if that was the case these forums would be cleared out (100 emoji)  

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

sigh. i feel like he can make everyone jump off of a bridge

Well he makes a fair point, 5 guild tag limit implemented before the new guild system was a huge mistake in itself.

The game is stale.

Look around battle arena, no one who is actually considered an extremely good sparrer is actually actively sparring, no guilds besides GST guilds actually guild spar.


No one is impressed with the #1 sparrer for the season because the #1 sparrer for the season is only there based on activity and not skill.  

Posted by Thallen

bro if that was the case these forums would be cleared out (100 emoji)

ya know, i wouldnt actually be against that :0

Posted by Red

Well he makes a fair point, 5 guild tag limit implemented before the new guild system was a huge mistake in itself.

The game is stale.

Look around battle arena, no one who is actually considered an extremely good sparrer is actually actively sparring, no guilds besides GST guilds actually guild spar.

No one is impressed with the #1 sparrer for the season because the #1 sparrer for the season is only there based on activity and not skill.

I'm arguing that there are things to do and that one can be loyal to a guild. I'm not arguing against the game becoming stale, because yes, a large amount of the playerbase doesn't participate in everything iClassic has to offer. The conversation began to split into two directions.  

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

I'm arguing that there are things to do and that one can be loyal to a guild.

Don't really see any guild loyalty, unless you're talking about social guilds and friend guilds.

And gst teams sticking together I suppose, other then that towering "loyalty" is a ****ing joke lol  

Posted by Red

Don't really see any guild loyalty, unless you're talking about social guilds and friend guilds.

And gst teams sticking together I suppose, other then that towering "loyalty" is a ****ing joke lol

I wish there was a way to change how people think and do things on Graal ya know? If people were loyal to competitive guilds, the game would be much more fun. That's why when I read about ClanDestine for the first time and saw what Thallen did the website n such, I was hoping other guilds would follow in his footsteps and do something similar. I've yet to see that happen.  

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

That's why when I read about ClanDestine for the first time and saw what Thallen did the website n such, I was hoping other guilds would follow in his footsteps and do something similar. I've yet to see that happen.

Why would they? I don't blame them for not putting in work and effort for something that's shown little progress and isn't even guaranteed to happen. I regret doing it as early as I did.  

Posted by Thallen

Why would they? I don't blame them for not putting in work and effort for something that's shown little progress and isn't even guaranteed to happen. I regret doing it as early as I did.

I wanted to do something haha, but like everyone else I didn't have the time for it. In your case, I don't have a single doubt in my mind that you can hype CD back up again.  

Posted by RyanB

But he's true

Even if he is "true" does not make it true. The game may be a piece of crap to him but not to everyone else. Thallen does not speak for all of Graal.  

Never said the game was a "piece of crap," I said there's no reason to be loyal to a guild on iClassic right now - you don't speak for me  

Posted by Thallen

Never said the game was a "piece of crap," I said there's no reason to be loyal to a guild on iClassic right now - you don't speak for me

I miss the old Thallen, straight from the PC Graal Thallen
Never lose a spar Thallen, set on his goals Thallen

I hate the new Thallen, the bad mood Thallen
The always rude Thallen, spaz in Graal Thallen  

Posted by Red

hate to agree with craig but he is right in what he says, graal is at it's lowest point ever.

Graal is not at it's lowest point for me.

Posted by Thallen

loyalty to what
it's literally an interactive chat room where you can pay to get cosmetics

Your underlying meaning says it all.

Posted by Reemas

Way to simplify everything and make the game seem more pathetic than it really is.

As I said before.

Posted by Thallen

Never said the game was a "piece of crap," I said there's no reason to be loyal to a guild on iClassic right now - you don't speak for me

There may be no reason for you. Hate to break it to you but you're not the only one who plays this game.  

Posted by Reemas

Graal is not at it's lowest point for me.



Your underlying meaning says it all.



As I said before.



There may be no reason for you. Hate to break it to you but you're not the only one who plays this game.

I guess you enjoy roleplaying outside burger refuge then, game alive guys.  

Posted by Red

I guess you enjoy roleplaying outside burger refuge then, game alive guys.

Cause that's all I do on Graal huh? You stalking me on Graal or what? Cause sure as hell, you have no clue how I play the game.