Neither members of Graalians or Staff Members can help you with your issues. You were reset for a valid offense (boosting). What's odd is that your spar record was also reset when you were PK boosting with friends.

Spoiler

Boosting:
In online games, having other players assist you in getting leaderboard position by having other people help you in ways that counters the game's design. Such as riots with friends, hitting spawn, gaining wins from friends or alternate accounts, etc.

Nonetheless, here in the forums we do not discuss in-game conflicts such as (bans or resets). Either deal with it since you were clearly in the wrong OR continue to complain since it'll do you nothing.


Colin, you may close this thread.  

Posted by Asaiki

You broke the rules, Usually they wouldn't hand-out warnings for boosting but they sorta made a mistake sending a warning towards you.

You are definitely right, but why admins can not first remove my "boosted" kills, as a big step to dare take everything from me. My 2 other mates have their stats, so this really does not make any real sense

Posted by Bryan*

Neither members of Graalians or Staff Members can help you with your issues. You were reset for a valid offense (boosting). What's odd is that your spar record was also reset when you were PK boosting with friends.

Spoiler

Boosting:
In online games, having other players assist you in getting leaderboard position by having other people help you in ways that counters the game's design. Such as riots with friends, hitting spawn, gaining wins from friends or alternate accounts, etc.

Nonetheless, here in the forums we do not discuss in-game conflicts such as (bans or resets). Either deal with it since you were clearly in the wrong OR continue to complain since it'll do you nothing.


Colin, you may close this thread.

I don't even need kills, I had 162k, why do I need boost please?  

Because if they just take away your boosted kills , then other players can just do this and hope that they don't get caught if the only consequence is losing the kills they just gained. If there is not a proper enforcement of the rules and punishment for those who don't follow them then everyone would try and cheat  

Posted by Alex R

Because if they just take away your boosted kills , then other players can just do this and hope that they don't get caught if the only consequence is losing the kills they just gained. If there is not a proper enforcement of the rules and punishment for those who don't follow them then everyone would try and cheat

I understand your concern, but it is nevertheless just that my kills were taken and not those of my 2 other bros, so if you really consider this, they have not really enforced their rules  

Posted by Kaan

I have illustrated my problem, well, support.toonslab will not help me since I had apparently had enough time to stop. Now if you ban someone, then usually has a very good reason, I have accepted it, but I can not understand why one should be able to eradicate the whole player, in this case me, my whole work. Well, I know I did something wrong, but the administration still can not answer me why my spar is reset. I have a very big problem.

I had no idea that I could lose my statistics because of this. I'm really upset and all my friends already made me realize that I'm not getting my stats back, whether they're real or fake. I'm honestly so sorry. I already contacted Graal by a ticket, their answer to my problem was quite disagreeable, once they remove statistics like this due to "boosting", they do not return the stats, they also said that they wouldn't continue to answer my problem. Well, that one caused by something like a disaster was me unconsciously, it is already hopeless, but what should I still make?

In terms of your pks being removed, you can't really expect them to check how many kills were obtained through boosting and how many were not. This is overall a mistake that you've made, despite not really knowing the rules, and you can't really expect someone else to take time and sort it out kill by kill for you.

As for your spar reset, there isn't much staff can do about it. All appeals for warns, bans, resets etc go to toonslab and that is something that is out of our jurisdiction.

Many know my mistakes now, but to make it clear again. A few days ago I was having a small riot with 2 of my friends at a bridge near MoD Town. We kept killing each other and after 200-300 kills. They gave me a warning, my friends also, but after ~10 minutes without reason we got banned, 12h bann because of "boostin". We were shocked, however, with regard to all accounts, I was the reset victim (kills and spar). I wasn't aware that doing something like this wasn't allowed or considered "boosting" because I used to think that boosting meant constantly hitting the spawn point at towers in order to get kills. There are often very huge riots with hundreds of people in Swamptown, so I thought it was okay.

One way of defining boosting would be intentionally/knowingly killing another player or an alternate account repeatedly, giving yourself an unfair advantage over others

In terms of questioning why those who have been having riots at swamptown do not suffer any consequences, many pkers have brought up the unfair advantage of these riots which allow multiple players to gain kills quickly without much effort at all. This has been taken into consideration and it has been made such that kills are not counted when the amount of kills in a particular area exceeds a certain rate.

Admins do not really relate to a problem and try to harm innocent people. I have to bear it now, I can understand it on the other hand, actually they do only their work, but they do not refer to my point of view, that is an insolence.

As I've mentioned, there are restrictions to what staff can do.

"Try to harm innocent people" is pretty inaccurate. I do believe that none or at least most staff do not abuse their powers to target a certain player. Mistakes are made and they are inevitable. Trying to harm a player would be doing it intentionally.

While it may seem that staff do not refer to your point of view, deeming it as rude and disrespectful is rather ridiculous. Generalizing a group of people based on your opinions and views of one doesn't really do them justice either. To a certain extent, it is possible to refer to your point of view. However, staff are meant to be as objective as possible to ensure that everything is fair. If we were all to stand in the shoes of others, things would be much more unfair.

Posted by Agonee

What I see out of that is that you either get reset by boosting a lot PKs or you can avoid getting reset by having a very good Admin friend, Idk tbh.

Being friend's with a staff member, does not and should not give anyone an advantage over others  

Posted by Milo

Being friend's with a staff member, does not and should not give anyone an advantage over others

/unfriend  

Posted by Milo

In terms of your pks being removed, you can't really expect them to check how many kills were obtained through boosting and how many were not. This is overall a mistake that you've made, despite not really knowing the rules, and you can't really expect someone else to take time and sort it out kill by kill for you.

As for your spar reset, there isn't much staff can do about it. All appeals for warns, bans, resets etc go to toonslab and that is something that is out of our jurisdiction.



One way of defining boosting would be intentionally/knowingly killing another player or an alternate account repeatedly, giving yourself an unfair advantage over others

In terms of questioning why those who have been having riots at swamptown do not suffer any consequences, many pkers have brought up the unfair advantage of these riots which allow multiple players to gain kills quickly without much effort at all. This has been taken into consideration and it has been made such that kills are not counted when the amount of kills in a particular area exceeds a certain rate.




As I've mentioned, there are restrictions to what staff can do.

"Try to harm innocent people" is pretty inaccurate. I do believe that none or at least most staff do not abuse their powers to target a certain player. Mistakes are made and they are inevitable. Trying to harm a player would be doing it intentionally.

While it may seem that staff do not refer to your point of view, deeming it as rude and disrespectful is rather ridiculous. Generalizing a group of people based on your opinions and views of one doesn't really do them justice either. To a certain extent, it is possible to refer to your point of view. However, staff are meant to be as objective as possible to ensure that everything is fair. If we were all to stand in the shoes of others, things would be much more unfair.



Being friend's with a staff member, does not and should not give anyone an advantage over others

I understand this concern, but when you reset an account, you should look specifically what the former has done. Graal staff said clearly that they will not discuss my situation further, so I assume that this is hopeless. I can not remember when 3 players are killing each other that it is useful to reset 1 of them, my 2 friends have 51k and 44k, I do not think this is a little.  

It would not be discussed any further because you admitted you were with 2 friends, created a riot with each other, and boosted kills for who knows how long. Acting like the victim isn't going to help you. You were caught, punishment was made, deal with it.

It's like playing cards. When you're winning a lot and the dealer asks you, "double or nothing" and you agree to double. Since you already agreed and if you lose, then you gain nothing. You cannot ask for a refund or what you earned previously since you put everything on the line.

Now once again, deal with being reset or continue to vent because it'll do you nothing for your account. This is my last post in this thread before eradication.  

Posted by Bryan*

It would not be discussed any further because you admitted you were with 2 friends, created a riot with each other, and boosted kills for who knows how long. Acting like the victim isn't going to help you. You were caught, punishment was made, deal with it.

It's like playing cards. When you're winning a lot and the dealer asks you, "double or nothing" and you agree to double. Since you already agreed and if you lose, then you gain nothing. You cannot ask for a refund or what you earned previously since you put everything on the line.

Now once again, deal with being reset or continue to vent because it'll do you nothing for your account. This is my last post in this thread before eradication.

You are right, in the forum about "talk" gives me no further chance, I will have to write a ticket, by appealing because I am not happy about the answer, done here.  

Posted by Kaan

I understand this concern, but when you reset an account, you should look specifically what the former has done. Graal staff said clearly that they will not discuss my situation further, so I assume that this is hopeless. I can not remember when 3 players are killing each other that it is useful to reset 1 of them, my 2 friends have 51k and 44k, I do not think this is a little.

As I've mentioned before, you shouldn't expect someone to look into which kills were obtained unfairly and which weren't. It is similar to expecting someone else to bearing the burden of your mistake regardless of whether or not it was intentional.

I doubt resetting anybody's stats is supposed to be useful. The main purpose of it should be to remove any unfair advantage,  

Posted by Milo

As I've mentioned before, you shouldn't expect someone to look into which kills were obtained unfairly and which weren't. It is similar to expecting someone else to bearing the burden of your mistake regardless of whether or not it was intentional.

I doubt resetting anybody's stats is supposed to be useful. The main purpose of it should be to remove any unfair advantage,

What can I do now? Just write a ticket and live with the hope that I get one back?  

Zara2  

A boosting warning should have been given , not a direct reset. But oh well admins are unpredictable and sometimes confusing.. been there. We have no choice but to accept it. In the other hand you got a good chance to get away from this game and it would be the best decision you will make.  

Posted by Kaan

I know I did something wrong, but the administration still can not answer me why my spar is reset.

Maybe it got reset because that's the punishment - the main deterrence against boosting. If someone's been boosting PK's, it's highly likely they might have done the same with sparring. So it'd make sense, sort of. This is just what I think.


As forum members, there's nothing we can do. This thread won't have much of an impact in their decision making. Just contact a higher up, such as a GP admin regarding your problem; it will save more time.  

Posted by Raeven

A boosting warning should have been given , not a direct reset. But oh well admins are unpredictable and sometimes confusing.. been there. We have no choice but to accept it. In the other hand you got a good chance to get away from this game and it would be the best decision you will make.

Warnings are always given before resets. You have to be caught boosting at least twice before your stuff is reset. We aren't "unpredictable", this is an unofficial forum and there's nothing holding people who post here to telling then truth except staff. Players can lie, as they frequently do about the circumstances of their bans. Staff aren't allowed to post the evidence here because that would be leaking.

We haven't ever reset people for riots, though we do try to stop them.