Posted by Dread

Yeah, sorry made some grammatical errors and wrote some stuff didn't totally make sense. It should be much more decisive now.

I forgive you we all make mistakes espically I< atleast your not a robot or not responding  

Posted by 0.5

Wat

What do you mean, wat? There is absolutely nothing confusing about the post.

If you were too lazy to read it, try tl;dr instead.

Here's a short summary:

The problem wasn't the fault of the staff or the server. Therefore, no redo. If someone had been ddosing you, it would have been dealt with differently, but no foul play was reported.


(imo getting ddosd is still mostly your fault because you gave them your skype or something)  

Posted by Count

What do you mean, wat? There is absolutely nothing confusing about the post.

If you were too lazy to read it, try tl;dr instead.

Here's a short summary:

The problem wasn't the fault of the staff or the server. Therefore, no redo. If someone had been ddosing you, it would have been dealt with differently, but no foul play was reported.


(imo getting ddosd is still mostly your fault because you gave them your skype or something)

Oh... I think a lot of people need to read what Dread wrote now or what you just restated  

Regardless of who reads what, there will always be the fools who think the game's staff and services are here to tend to their smallest of problems without understanding the workings of the greater picture and greater priority. I suggest you just correct them if you can and if not, try not to get your brain shrunken a few sizes and move on.  

Posted by 0.5

Wat

Peoplw would use lag switch programs to cut their internet off if they are going to lose.
Thats why theres no rematchs for lag reasons  

Posted by Count

Why would they give you a redo for said reason? So if I'm about to lose a match, should I just close the app / cut power to my router / etc and claim my internet crashed, then demand a redo?

Seriously, it isn't hard to figure out why they don't do that.

Are you just looking for a reason to complain about the staff? Either way, thanks, because I come here to complain about everyone complaining, and it makes my day a lot better.

Don't see how Marshmallow could have been a problem when the GPA was right there watching everything he did... not that I could make any sense of Red's post anyway

my proof is that i left before match started=i didn't od it during math cuz we doing bad lol brush I'm not going to lie xD

Posted by Dread

The reason why you aren't given a redo due to your own internet failing is because if that was allowed, it would give opportunity for everyone else to do it too eventually leading to people abusing it. What I am trying to tell you is things like this are your own responsibility and it seems you have yet to accept that. Redo's are only put in place if the interference during the match was on the server's or staff member's end. There are plenty of guilds that sign up for the GST and if every guild signed up had the ability to redo a match due to their own issues, it's likely there wouldn't be a GST at all. It's quite silly to assume that a whole GST should be redone due to something the server or its representatives are not responsible for. There simply isn't time mid-GST for your problems to be considered with enough valid proof/evidence for a rematch/redo.

There have been circumstances in the past where players were DDOSing other players and in those cases, it has been dealt with to the extent that it can be, but unfortunately, in your case this is no one's responsibility but your own.

no they would only give redo to ppl who left b4 match started its not hard  

Posted by Ruppy

my proof is that i left before match started=i didn't od it during math cuz we doing bad lol brush I'm not going to lie xD


no they would only give redo to ppl who left b4 match started its not hard

maybe you won't, but others will

its still not really their fault you disconnected, but it is certainly unfortunate

If you can't "control" your internet, should you be entering these competitions in the first place? :/

Edit: finally watched the video (or the relevant part anyway), I'm guessing it appeared to the staff that you were already in the spar, if not, then your team shouldn't have queued.  

Count. how the f does he expect his team to unqueue when he got dc randomly right before the match.
Dread, ruppy took less than 30 sec to reboot and it wasn't on purpose. But thx for at least stating ur side. Kind of understandable.

I dont personally see internet failing as his fault unless he was running something and he didnt get dc in the middle of the match  

Honestly there's a whole lot hosts have to keep track of during GST. It's not like we just watch you spar. We have multiple windows to control and view information. Sometimes it can get overwhelming, and when there's a problem we to make a decision on the spot since you mostly have to try to keep on time with the GST. I may not agree 100% with the outcome but I can see why it was decided upon. They may have not seen you disconnect right before the spar started.  

Posted by Yog

Honestly there's a whole lot hosts have to keep track of during GST. It's not like we just watch you spar. We have multiple windows to control and view information. Sometimes it can get overwhelming, and when there's a problem we to make a decision on the spot since you mostly have to try to keep on time with the GST. I may not agree 100% with the outcome but I can see why it was decided upon. They may have not seen you disconnect right before the spar started.

But watching the game is a key part of the hosts job. You are meant to see if any rules are broken and are meant to enforce the rules.
You may have other things to manage but you can do that between the various matches.  

What you folks don't realize is that, from the GST host's point of view, there's 10 laggy players teleporting all over the middle ring. No one is going to keep track of that. If you lag out, too bad. If someone else is 'delaying', the most a host can do is take a look at ping/jitter and see if it goes too high every now and then. The only mistake I spotted was when one started with 9 players instead of 10, but just eyeballing it is difficult because all you idiots dress the same (random head + all black body colors). The guy timed out right after they thought there were 10 IIRC.

Overall the guys and girls did a good job hosting. There were a lot of disconnect/lag issues but they handled it well. It's not half as easy as it looks. Get good.

or invest ur precious time playin an actual competitive game  

Is it run similarly to Classic's Monthly Spars?  

Posted by Skyzer

Is it run similarly to Classic's Monthly Spars?

GST is 5 vs. 5, no tag team, gets hosted once every 3 months
Over the course of those 3 months, you can freely GS to improve your guild score which determines seeding
Best of 3, finals are best of 5  

Posted by Crono

The only mistake I spotted was when one started with 9 players instead of 10, but just eyeballing it is difficult because all you idiots dress the same (random head + all black body colors). The guy timed out right after they thought there were 10 IIRC.

idek how in the world you caught that. I tried counting but I'd have better luck counting the ants in my front yard.

Another thing is that I personally always made sure both teams had the right players and a full team and were ready to spar before even opening the queue. I also didn't force the queue. If your team had less than 5 during the spar then the responsibility is on the team.  

Posted by Yog

idek how in the world you caught that. I tried counting but I'd have better luck counting the ants in my front yard.

Another thing is that I personally always made sure both teams had the right players and a full team and were ready to spar before even opening the queue. I also didn't force the queue. If your team had less than 5 during the spar then the responsibility is on the team.

I actually didn't notice until they started. That round was re-done.