From what I understand it isn't the server as much as people think. It's the client, or the chance that people are unaware of how bad their ISP could be, but that can't be the case for everyone. I do see where Aguzo comes from on this, as there is a solid ping difference when you switch devices on the same internet, even with a PC being wired in and the iDevice not so. However, despite the slight nuisance this is, I'd laugh if it was taken as a "RED ALERT SERIOUS ISSUE NEEDS FIX NOW" type deal as it's been this way and people have dealt with it without issue for years. If 60 ms affects someone that badly they need to learn to adjust anyways.  

Yeah, I've found similar issues on my Mac. My iPad mini is much faster than it, both with a speedtest and from Graal's showlag. Mac usually is at 100 ms, iPad mini 4 is usually at 40-60. Though I play through the Facebook browser and am not on OSX El Capitan, which could make a small difference.  

Ya man having 100ms delay from opening a profile is hell  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Ya man having 100ms delay from opening a profile is hell

When your opponent is at a smooth 60 ms, and your ms is double that, then they can easily hit first all the time. It's mostly a spar issue, since I don't use my pc to do anything else, but there are people who use their pc for everything on graal, and it really affects their gameplay.

The lower your ms is, the faster you get hits. They put delteria on Client, would it be hard to do for iClassic?  

Posted by Aguzo

When your opponent is at a smooth 60 ms, and your ms is double that, then they can easily hit first all the time. It's mostly a spar issue, since I don't use my pc to do anything else, but there are people who use their pc for everything on graal, and it really affects their gameplay.

The lower your ms is, the faster you get hits. They put delteria on Client, would it be hard to do for iClassic?

??? If your opponent has 60ms and you have 100ms it makes no difference. You are being delusional  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

??? If your opponent has 60ms and you have 100ms it makes no difference. You are being delusional

They get their hits first, trust me.

But then on idev I get all my hits, that I should be getting on PC.  

Posted by Aguzo

They get their hits first, trust me.

So Sarah can't get her hits first? all of Australia and Japan can't get their hits first?  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

So Sarah can't get her hits first? all of Australia and Japan can't get their hits first?

Depends on where you live too, obviously.

If they have a higher ms, and have a higher delay, then they hit first only because they were past the moment that you see them on your screen.

Where you see them on your screen, they are already past that on their device.

Now, if you swing to where you predict that they will go, and on their screen they try to hit you (not predicting), then you get the hit, and they get no hit.  

Posted by Aguzo

How long will it stay like this? I used to get at least 80-90ms, 60ms at night. Now I can only get that on iDevice
This wasn't done on purpose right? Will it ever be fixed? Does Graal need to leave flash and use it's own client?

I'm just curious as to how this would be fixed? I'm not an expert, so I'm curious. Doesn't that problem fall under the users? I would assume that the server receives, processes, and sends data with consistency/same rate regardless of devices being used.  

Posted by GOAT

I'm just curious as to how this would be fixed? I'm not an expert, so I'm curious. Doesn't that problem fall under the users? I would assume that the server receives, processes, and sends data with consistency/same rate regardless of devices being used.

Game is better optimized for idev than flash.

UPDATE: I don't think that client would solve anything, because I just tested Delteria on both facebook and Client... no difference, in fact client might have been a little more unstable.

Unless Delteria just sucks on PC, then idk.

But the fact doesn't change that on iPad I always get lower ms, basically half of what I get on PC. Brand new PC too, no virus, decent specs.

I will say this though, I have a friend who told me that they get 70-80 ms, but they have 12mb upload speed... I have 3.

Do I need to pay so much to run graal on PC?

There could just be something that they need to fix on PC. Who knows what that might be though.

I just tested both devices right now, at the same time with 3,500+ players on.

iDev Results: 85 ms
PC Results: 135 ms

iDev Results: 82 ms
PC Results: 131 ms

PC is mostly unstable, and ranges from 99 ms and jumps straight to 140.
iDev is a stable 80-85 ms...

I used to think the server was just bad, but it's clearly an optimization issue.  

The client has been terrible ever since release and the game is optimized for idev. There is no way you can fix it.  

As Ash said, it isn't that big of a difference unless it's in the hundreds.  

Posted by Ash Ketchum

tell me your specs and your adapter/wifi adapter

Whats your speedtest on your PC and your iDevice

(pictures)

If by adapter, you mean wifi provider, then Time Warner Cable

This is what I got from Speed Test:

This is from Pingtest

Specs


Let me do it on iOS now



Now let me show you my ping on PC compare to iOS lol

PC:

iOS:

The gap is pretty big

Posted by Ash Ketchum

Ya man having 100ms delay from opening a profile is hell

lol can relate.  

Posted by Wolfie

If by adapter, you mean wifi provider, then Time Warner Cable

This is what I got from Speed Test:

This is from Pingtest

Specs


Let me do it on iOS now



Now let me show you my ping on PC compare to iOS lol

PC:

iOS:

The gap is pretty big



lol can relate.

your 53ms difference is not big. What i'm worried about is the spikes you are receiving on your PC end?  

here's mine, I get ~130ms on iPad and ~180ms on PC