The flag isn't what is racist, the context around it is. I could hang a confederate flag over my house if I wanted, and that doesn't make me a racist, or unpatriotic. Just like exposing children to images of confederate flags without telling them what it is won't silently turn them into little negro-hunting racists.

On the topic of Apple censoring it, they have the right to censor whatever the hell they want from their products. They don't want apps with confederate flags waving around in their App Store, good for them, to be honest that sounds incredibly logical to me.

When it comes down to it though, how much does anyone here actually care? Do you frequently look for American Civil War apps in the App Store? When I think about it, I don't give a damn if Apple doesn't like the Confederate Flag, it is completely irrelevant to me, and I would assume the same goes for most people; good example of people looking to get offended by something.  

Like Colin said, censoring history is a terrible move to play.

The fact that a major company like Apple would use ignorance to fight ignorance just baffles me.

Sure, we don't agree on the same things, but there are facts out there that can't be changed and shouldn't be hidden.

Instead, people should be able to hold their opinions about those facts instead of just sweeping them under the rug. And those opinions should't be provided for you like napkins at a restaurant, you need to personally develop and defend your own opinion instead of listening to some voice coming out of a box.  

Posted by 5hift

Like Colin said, censoring history is a terrible move to play.

The fact that a major company like Apple would use ignorance to fight ignorance just baffles me.

Sure, we don't agree on the same things, but there are facts out there that can't be changed and shouldn't be hidden.

Instead, people should be able to hold their opinions about those facts instead of just sweeping them under the rug.

There is nothing ignorant about what Apple did, nor are they really fighting anything. And it is obvious they aren't trying to hide the fact that the confederacy ever existed because they are total chill with apps that are educational about it.

So the *** u sayin?  

The fact that Apple is dumb enough to want to remove the Confederate flag from ****ing video games just proves how ignorant they are.

How are they not fighting something if they just removed a factual piece of information from a totally irrelevant source?

What if Bethesda suddenly decided it was too racist to have the Swastika from Wolfenstein?

You're seriously not getting anywhere just by removing something, and the fact that Apple thinks this is the right thing to do just proves how bad things are going to go for them in the future.  

Posted by 5hift

The fact that Apple is dumb enough to want to remove the Confederate flag from ****ing video games just proves how ignorant they are.

How are they not fighting something if they just removed a factual piece of information from a totally irrelevant source?

What if Bethesda suddenly decided it was too racist to have the Swastika from Wolfenstein?

You're seriously not getting anywhere just by removing something, and the fact that Apple thinks this is the right thing to do just proves how bad things are going to go for them in the future.

You are literally rewording the same stupid ass text from your last post.  

Posted by MrSimons

There is nothing ignorant about what Apple did, nor are they really fighting anything. And it is obvious they aren't trying to hide the fact that the confederacy ever existed because they are total chill with apps that are educational about it.

So the *** u sayin?

The point he is trying to make is that it was dumb to take it from games that revolve around the time the flag was used. Imagine a WW2 game without any swastikas. If they do this then there would be a push for every game that shows anything bad in our history(as people) to be removed.

Posted by 5hift

The fact that Apple is dumb enough to want to remove the Confederate flag from ****ing video games just proves how ignorant they are.

How are they not fighting something if they just removed a factual piece of information from a totally irrelevant source?

What if Bethesda suddenly decided it was too racist to have the Swastika from Wolfenstein?

You're seriously not getting anywhere just by removing something, and the fact that Apple thinks this is the right thing to do just proves how bad things are going to go for them in the future.

Calm down cowboy
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/app.../#.zn3g4k:HW4V
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i need to get out of America  

I dunno guys, the Nazi flag is a pretty cool flag. Represents Germany rising up from the ashes of WW1 and making a name for itself. Has nothing to do with racism right???  

wat ever shall I do without my daily playtime of historically accurate "Civil War:1862" on my iPhone 6  

Posted by GOAT

Calm down cowboy
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/25/app.../#.zn3g4k:HW4V
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Well, that makes a lot more sense, but how do they go about deciding if it's used offensively or not? A lot of app developers who have their games pulled have been saying it was used for it's historical content but they still have to change it.

I just think it's a stupid change for a stupid reason, low grade attempt at PR karma. It's obvious they don't really care.  

Well GG Apple for shaking off those LSD tablets.  

Posted by Colin

Well, that makes a lot more sense, but how do they go about deciding if it's used offensively or not? A lot of app developers who have their games pulled have been saying it was used for it's historical content but they still have to change it.

I just think it's a stupid change for a stupid reason, low grade attempt at PR karma. It's obvious they don't really care.

I think it's one of those situations where they acted before really thinking about it. I would say most of them should get re-add it in the next couple days.

Posted by 5hift

Well GG Apple for shaking odd those LSD tablets.

Good to see you calm down, media hater.  

Posted by MrSimons

You are literally rewording the same stupid ass text from your last post.

Understand my stupid ass text, dammit.  

The post-war resurgence and use of the civil war redneck flag started in the 50's as a way of saying "my state is for segregation." Any post-war use of the flag is inherently racist because of this cultural connection.

Even if an individual waves/owns/displays a rebel flag for "historical" reasons it's still strange because regardless of the way they feel about it they're still waving an enemy flag.

I don't think the flag should be removed from fiction like games etc, but I don't think it has any real legitimate place in contemporary America.  

I mean if you support an open rebellion against America and slavery sure wave the flag all you want... Jk asshats are the only people that still wave that thing around.