What if it was kept at 100, but in order to enter it you would need a set amount of hours?  

Posted by Kendama

Yes but once every guild starts accumulating these "few hours over 1k" then future guilds will have to go on even farther than that to beat that record. This keeps happening over time and the leader board standards will rise.

It only takes a few hours to bump off a guild that doesn't care if they're on the leaderboard or not to get onto the leaderboard. The only guild I see that is continuing past 1k is Maphasy. So many guilds on the leaderboard are retired/have no intentions on going past 1k. They could care less if they got bumped off or not. Meaning there is hardly a bar to pass to get onto the leaderboard. A bar will raise if guilds constantly try to beat that bar, and right now, no guild is trying to do that.

I'm not sure how to explain it other than the fact that the bar isn't raising because nobody wants to beat that bar, because guilds only care about the hat. Also, guilds are constantly disappearing from the leaderboard, opening up more spots for guilds trying to get to 1k. There are more than 100 1k guilds, yet a guild with 900 something hours is #99 on the leaderboard. As long as guilds keep stopping at 1k and guilds keep disappearing from the leaderboard, the bar will never rise.

Posted by Rufus

Yeah, well, this suggestion and its current iteration do nothing to address that. If a guild cares enough to be on the leaderboard it will continue.

The problem is, many guilds today don't, which is why the bar isn't raising. Read above.  

1. if a guild continued after 1k, hat chasing guilds shouldn't matter to them.

2. reaching 1k/5k/10k for the sole purpose of getting a hat/mount or being on a leader board are equally lame(IMO), so I dont see how one is better than the other.


let people enjoy the game the way they want and graal will become a better experience.


just remember "the less people you chill with the less bullsh1t you deal with"

graal drama/graal politics = no good  

Top 10 is a little extreme... Wouldnt mind it going back to top 50.
(top 10 is so far away from current tower guilds, so there would no motivation for it)

However, I dont think getting on the top [whatever] board is a priority for current tower guilds anyway.  

Posted by GOAT

1. if a guild continued after 1k, hat chasing guilds shouldn't matter to them.

2. reaching 1k/5k/10k for the sole purpose of getting a hat/mount or being on a leader board are equally lame(IMO), so I dont see how one is better than the other.


let people enjoy the game the way they want and graal will become a better experience.


just remember "the less people you chill with the less bullsh1t you deal with"

graal drama/graal politics = no good

The competition for towers is incredibly fierce nowadays. There isn't much swapping being done with towers, the same recycled guilds sit at their respective home towers with LOADS of hat chasers and it makes it so hard to combat that if you are not equipped with your own army of hat chasers.

This is why I have such a problem with hat chasing guilds, the hat provides them with such a high benefit above normal guilds that are just trying to rank up the leaderboard. It offers something that the actual guilds that care about going past 1k can't really offer. (unless they postpone giving a hat, but still, I am just sick of everything revolving around the stupid pixel reward)  

Posted by Kendama

The competition for towers is incredibly fierce nowadays. There isn't much swapping being done with towers, the same recycled guilds sit at their respective home towers with LOADS of hat chasers and it makes it so hard to combat that if you are not equipped with your own army of hat chasers.

This is why I have such a problem with hat chasing guilds, the hat provides them with such a high benefit above normal guilds that are just trying to rank up the leaderboard. It offers something that the actual guilds that care about going past 1k can't really offer. (unless they postpone giving a hat, but still, I am just sick of everything revolving around the stupid pixel reward)

to be honest i dont pay much attention to the towering community, but I thought chasers mainly stayed in Sards because it required minimal effort to hold it. The only chasers I remember were Lanky and his friends.  

Posted by GOAT

to be honest i dont pay much attention to the towering community, but I thought chasers mainly stayed in Sards because it required minimal effort to hold it. The only chasers I remember were Lanky and his friends.

'friends' lol. I didn't think anyone liked that guy and they just stuck with him for hats.  

Lanky was hilarious, always getting stoned in skype calls, 10/10 family entertainment.  

hat chaser (hat chāsər) [verbal pronunciation]
noun, informal
a non-offensive insult originating from an intense jealousy or hatred that bad or incapable players have towards other players who are better than them at towering and/or tower in a non-permanent or casual format

"Timmy, did you see how many sweet guild hats Bobby has? I heard he got them all while we were towering in this boring 10k guild. Boy, he sure is a hat chaser, haha!"

Betty is in a guild that gets 12 hours per day. Larry is in a guild that gets 30 hours per day. Betty realizes that her guild is bad, but fear not--she has a defense that cannot be beaten: she finds Larry's profile, goes to send him a PM, and she calls him a hat chaser. Now, Betty is better than Larry at towering! (Betty smiles and continues in her futile efforts to capture Sardon's with her guild.)

synonyms: person who is good at towering, person who doesn't want to tower for a year straight, person with lots of swaggy hats  

It won't let me rep you  

Thallen, I don't see what you aren't comprehending. I have no problem with 1k guilds. Hooray for them. Somebody that makes more than one is what a hat chaser is. Somebody that abuses the tower rewards system. That's why I dislike them.  

Posted by Fire Surge

Thallen, I don't see what you aren't comprehending. I have no problem with 1k guilds. Hooray for them. Somebody that makes more than one is what a hat chaser is. Somebody that abuses the tower rewards system. That's why I dislike them.

Is it "abuse" when someone picks Dhalsim in Street Fighter and beats the **** out of you from a full screen away? Is it "abuse" in League of Legends when you constantly pick a champion that is overpowered in the current patch?

No, it absolutely is not, because you are playing the game by the rules that the game has set for you, and everyone else playing the game is able to make that same decision. Should they choose to or not is entirely their own decision.

Here's "abuse" in towering:

• Lagblocking
• Speed hacking and hitting the flag from 100 to 0 in 2 seconds
• Finding a glitch that makes you unhittable and using it to steal towers from guilds

It has absolutely zero negative effect on the game whatsoever when people make a guild, tower with it for 1000 hours, and then make a new one. Literally none. The real question is, why wouldn't you do it? Because you don't want to? Okay, well they do.
That's like me crying about people who spar in the side rooms and pushing for staff to make it a requirement that everyone spar in one room, simply because I don't agree with their choice to only spar bad players. Dude, my ego is pretty big, but I'm not stupid. People can do whatever the hell they want so long as it isn't hurting you or the game.

Not to mention, even if it was in staff's interest to limit how many guilds any particular player can lead to 1k, there's no realistic way to implement that. How are they going to do it from a scripting perspective? Furthermore, why would they?  

Posted by -Fin*

They should just have a scroll on the list and list all 1k guilds

Agreed!  

Posted by Thallen

Is it "abuse" when someone picks Dhalsim in Street Fighter and beats the **** out of you from a full screen away? Is it "abuse" in League of Legends when you constantly pick a champion that is overpowered in the current patch?

No, it absolutely is not, because you are playing the game by the rules that the game has set for you, and everyone else playing the game is able to make that same decision. Should they choose to or not is entirely their own decision.

Here's "abuse" in towering:

• Lagblocking
• Speed hacking and hitting the flag from 100 to 0 in 2 seconds
• Finding a glitch that makes you unhittable and using it to steal towers from guilds

It has absolutely zero negative effect on the game whatsoever when people make a guild, tower with it for 1000 hours, and then make a new one. Literally none. The real question is, why wouldn't you do it? Because you don't want to? Okay, well they do.
That's like me crying about people who spar in the side rooms and pushing for staff to make it a requirement that everyone spar in one room, simply because I don't agree with their choice to only spar bad players. Dude, my ego is pretty big, but I'm not stupid. People can do whatever the hell they want so long as it isn't hurting you or the game.

Not to mention, even if it was in staff's interest to limit how many guilds any particular player can lead to 1k, there's no realistic way to implement that. How are they going to do it from a scripting perspective? Furthermore, why would they?

God you don't understand at all. We all know it doesn't break any of the damn rules, that is why we are trying to have the system changed. We don't like it.

You cannot dictate the forums because you happen to disagree with what people are saying. Everyone has to right to criticize or support hat chasers, because that is us expressing out opinion. Just because you say it doesn't break any rules, it doesn't mean we have to support it.  

Posted by Kendama

We all know it doesn't break any of the damn rules, that is why we are trying to have the system changed.

Nah man, you don't get it.

1. The great minority support any idea to do this, because it makes absolutely no sense. You're taking away something from people that they like, for no reason, and it gives nothing back to the game in return. You know who supports this? People who don't tower right now and wouldn't tower if it did happen. People that are jealous and butthurt for no reason at all.
2. You don't realize that it is literally 100% impossible, from a scripting standpoint, to "limit people to leading only one 1k guild." It is not possible. You simply cannot do it. There are a billion loopholes.

Posted by Kendama

Everyone has to right to criticize or support hat chasers, because that is us expressing out opinion. Just because you say it doesn't break any rules, it doesn't mean we have to support it.

LMAO
I mean, feel free to complain and express your opinion about something that is completely fine and doesn't hurt the game in any way, but just know that you look like babies while doing it. Not a single one of you can make a point towards how these 1k guilds are apparently hurting the game.

"It isn't fair that you guys are doing something that we all have the option of doing, but we choose not to!"
Yeah, good luck!