Posted by Infernus Lapse

How abut you add a runescape thing called "gift of giving" and you put an item in it, then the other person has to out an item in it within a value range matching the item by 2,000 above or below the items worth, and items youd get from mobs like the spd weapons would be worth at most $10k or more, so its not excluding those. So yu could buy your friend a BAR, but theyd have to give you something in return of similar value. This prevents scamming and allows you to do that. If someones starting out, your friend can give 1 item to them worth under $100k with them needing nothing but theyre starter pistol in return.

The gift of giving in runescape is different. You have to trade it with someone then you open it and there's a gift in there. Then you have to activate it again by trading it again.  

Not gonna happen  

Posted by The Doctor

If it seems unclear, when you go to the purchase screen for the item you want to buy (let's use a BAR for an example), the person can choose an option labeled Gift. The amount of gralats that the item has will still be deducted from your account, but it won't loose Stefan any money.

I like this idea

Yes this is exactly what I mean either way someone has to buy an exta item in order for them to gift it to someone, ad once been gifted it won't be droppable anymore.. So either way gralats will be deducted from the account so either way stefan will recieve some sort of sums in his account..  

Posted by Infernus Lapse

How abut you add a runescape thing called "gift of giving" and you put an item in it, then the other person has to out an item in it within a value range matching the item by 2,000 above or below the items worth, and items youd get from mobs like the spd weapons would be worth at most $10k or more, so its not excluding those. So yu could buy your friend a BAR, but theyd have to give you something in return of similar value. This prevents scamming and allows you to do that. If someones starting out, your friend can give 1 item to them worth under $100k with them needing nothing but theyre starter pistol in return.

Um... That's a trading system which is an issue, the quote below will explain why we can't have a trading system

Posted by Talon

No on the trading system. As Street once said, the owners of the game don't want a free economy in which other players can capitalize in certain assets, whether it be guns, melees, or currency. In an open market such as one created by a trading system, the demand for certain items is determined by the supply of the item (infinite, in our case). Prices are set by developers. If we allowed trading of items such as guns, prices will decline way below the original price set for the item. Why? Because when players find no more use for, say, a BAR, they will sell it for a lesser price to appeal to players and use the money to buy a new gun. Eventually the price players set tend to turn into an accepted status quo, which is indefinitely lower than store prices. When this happens, the players' money circulates only through players as opposed to Gralats disappearing when an item in a store is purchased. When money circulates through players, eventually the need for purchasing Gralat Packs is gone as players can just easily sell items to gain money.

This is an issue for any game developer with no outside revenue source. When players are constantly shelling for money, soon all of the money will STAY in circulation through the players, assuming items are bought at lower prices from other players (which any rational player will do). When this happens, TONS of money will be, and stay in the economy which ultimately defeats the purpose of buying packs. This means no revenue for the game owners. Our current system regulates this by forcing players to buy items in-store. Having money disappear when items are bought in-store lessens the amount of money circulating in the economy. When there is less money going around, players are more inclined to buy Gralat packs - that is where game owners make their profit.

 

Posted by romario786

Ye but giving droppable items to someone else is also likeable of giving gralats to someone else, so that arguement is kinda invalid.. Unless if you elaborate a bit more..

Droppable items are limited, my argument is valid.  

i disagree with this idea. i can tell easily that someone you know has what you call a 'superare' that's undroppable and you'd like to get it since that have two.  

Posted by Wabbit

i disagree with this idea. i can tell easily that someone you know has what you call a 'superare' that's undroppable and you'd like to get it since that have two.

No, I'm not saying that anything in the inventory should be gifted... Only items which are buyable in iEra shops could be gifted by adding another option when tapping on a item from a shop next to "Buy" there could be another option saying "gift", so I'm not talking of any super rare whatsoever to be dropped from anyone's inventory, I'm actually against that.  

Posted by Johnaudi

Droppable items are limited, my argument is valid.

No not really... Freebies arn't limited.  

Posted by lord greg

Are you talking about a trade system?

ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS  

no.  

Posted by Johnaudi

Same as giving gralats, which is a no. (unless snk wants to)

No it's not because you can't re sell the item as of now  

I'm just going to make it simple: This is a version of a player-run "trading" system that's just as bad as dropping, it will cause a steady flow of new scams to players who are ignorant enough to trust a person they've never met, causing them to quit and cut down the amount of players who pay money for gralat packs which earn profit for the administration, this won't be added unless a real trading system is active, and if you read my quote from Talon above you'll see that there really is no way that undroppable items will ever be traded  

Posted by The Doctor

The amount of gralats that the item has will still be deducted from your account, but it won't loose Stefan any money.

I like this idea

--A Graal recession would be funny.  

Posted by Kyle Kol

I'm just going to make it simple: This is a version of a player-run "trading" system that's just as bad as dropping, it will cause a steady flow of new scams to players who are ignorant enough to trust a person they've never met, causing them to quit and cut down the amount of players who pay money for gralat packs which earn profit for the administration, this won't be added unless a real trading system is active, and if you read my quote from Talon above you'll see that there really is no way that undroppable items will ever be traded

You have misunderstood the concept of the gifting idea.. Ad talon was explains the trade method for a different statement.  

Yeah i would like it if you can gift at the moment when you buy something(the moment when u see the buy screen) so you cant gif something that u have in ur inv already, it would be nice if you only can gift when ur at the screen of buying something, so we wont be able to still gift untradeable items that are in your inv already..