Posted by qes

GTA should have its own website, app and Facebook server. its bs that a good server like that is dead due to the ****ty client its on.

We do have our own website.

EDIT: Oops, you meant a web app. Never mind lol  

Posted by Thor

The newest mode of Capture the Flag on Graal the Adventure, complete with Hook Shot.

I smell more obtainable tears of hera
Hey thor could we have some new platforming pk events too?  

Thor will lead all Graalians into a new age of happiness and prosperity.  

Posted by Thor

A Guild Points award system for the Ranks has now been implemented. Those who occupy the top 5 of each Rank at the end of each month will have Guild Points awarded to their respective Competitive Guild.

Guild Points awarded for those who top the Spar + PK + TCG ranks are as follows -

1st: 10 Guild Points
2nd: 5 Guild Points
3rd - 5th: 1 Guild Point

As Archery is a single player based rank, the awarding is as follows -

1st: 5 Guild Points
2nd: 2 Guild Points
3rd - 5th: 1 Guild Point

As of this moment, Loyalists of Graal are set to gain 27 Guild Points. With this considered the prices for the various Guild Awards have been adjusted, but are subject to change in future depending on how things play out.

A playlist of the current various Guild awards can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...w3XcQycEyZD9wY

Wait is this how iClassic guildsystem going to be like?cough frauds  

Posted by G Fatal

Wait is this how iClassic guildsystem going to be like?cough frauds

are you ******ed?  

Posted by Crono

are you ******ed?

Yes.  

Posted by G Fatal

Wait is this how iClassic guildsystem going to be like?cough frauds

Maybe unix & md were right about two classics being confusing  

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

Maybe unix & md were right about two classics being confusing

Not sure why the original needed to be the one renamed.  

Oh hey pc players who've been here 20+years. Necessarily the way that's said could be used in some sense in iclassic's(even if not what they will do) however different it may be idk because not fully read or bothering to as pc dickheads will always feel more powerful for playing a game years longer pretty petty and pathetic. no doubt they'll probably reply some ****.yawn. Even if classic(not even iclassic-was earlier still would be considered taken from other classic/adventure as there is nothing of that system there already-oh no it's classic we create everything in graal existence..)  

Posted by G Fatal

Oh hey pc players who've been here 20+years. Necessarily the way that's said could be used in some sense in iclassic's(even if not what they will do) however different it may be idk because not fully read or bothering to as pc dickheads will always feel more powerful for playing a game years longer pretty petty and pathetic. no doubt they'll probably reply some ****.yawn. Even if classic(not even iclassic-was earlier still would be considered taken from other classic/adventure as there is nothing of that system there already-oh no it's classic we create everything in graal existence..)

The system thor talked about wouldnt make sense for a server with 4000 players. I see the overlap between stats and points, but only the top 5 players in each rank get points for their guild. This only works with a smaller playercount.

For what it's worth, I started graal on iclassic, but dont bother commenting about a post you didnt fully read if you expect "pc dickheads" to "reply [with] some ****"  

Posted by WaFFL3Cake

The system thor talked about wouldnt make sense for a server with 4000 players. I see the overlap between stats and points, but only the top 5 players in each rank get points for their guild. This only works with a smaller playercount.

For what it's worth, I started graal on iclassic, but dont bother commenting about a post you didnt fully read if you expect "pc dickheads" to "reply [with] some ****"

That comment was more to the 'are you ******ed' 'yes' comments not you..and I was more thinking it would be kinda like top 5 get whatever points 6-20 get x points 21-200 get points and so on.. Idk really how iclassic is going to do it as they've never actually stated anywhere about exactly how it will work and only one's who seem above board on it are surmising it'll be great so guess we'll see how it will be eventually as they seem to already know but say nothing about it.  

Posted by G Fatal

That comment was more to the 'are you ******ed' 'yes' comments not you..and I was more thinking it would be kinda like top 5 get whatever points 6-20 get x points 21-200 get points and so on.. Idk really how iclassic is going to do it as they've never actually stated anywhere about exactly how it will work and only one's who seem above board on it are surmising it'll be great so guess we'll see how it will be eventually as they seem to already know but say nothing about it.

we'll have to wait and see. or wait and never see, if theyre just trolling us xD

Posted by Skyzer

Not sure why the original needed to be the one renamed.

to be honest, i think that going onto the app store and seeing Graal for the first time ever as "Graal the Adventure" sounds a lot more enticing than Graal Classic+. The only reason I see for ios keeping the name Classic is because there was no actual adventure as in a questline. The only "adventure" was exploring and interacting with others online in different ways.  

Posted by Thor

A Guild Points award system for the Ranks has now been implemented. Those who occupy the top 5 of each Rank at the end of each month will have Guild Points awarded to their respective Competitive Guild.

Guild Points awarded for those who top the Spar + PK + TCG ranks are as follows -

1st: 10 Guild Points
2nd: 5 Guild Points
3rd - 5th: 1 Guild Point

As Archery is a single player based rank, the awarding is as follows -

1st: 5 Guild Points
2nd: 2 Guild Points
3rd - 5th: 1 Guild Point

As of this moment, Loyalists of Graal are set to gain 27 Guild Points. With this considered the prices for the various Guild Awards have been adjusted, but are subject to change in future depending on how things play out.

A playlist of the current various Guild awards can be seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...w3XcQycEyZD9wY

I'm not sure what to think about your analysis of points using the pre-wipe system. Points grew exponentially in relation to the rank of your opponent. The top two ranks fighting each other exclusively? That would be primarily linear. Meanwhile, assuming a constant 30 ranked players all in a PK room together, it would have taken a player killing the bottom ranked player 116 times to surpass the number of points (unrounded) you would have earned killing the top ranked player 20 times.

If you scaled the same scenario up to 1000 players instead, it would take 220 times killing the lowest ranked player to earn the same number of points (unrounded) as you would get from killing the top ranked player 20 times.

I've read plenty of criticisms of iClassic sparring, in particular individuals sparring selectively with an emphasis of seeking out players who are less skilled. Does your system incentivize or decentivize this kind of behavior? How do you believe your system scales in relation to what you seek to incentivize and decentivize? What is your objective variable, and what are the constraints you have to optimizing it?

Meanwhile, did you decide to use the more recent database extensions, or the binary-search/array-insert methods I hacked up?

Also, how did you come to your decision about the guild points awarded for each category? What do you consider to be a healthy guild system, and what guild activities are you attempting to incentivize or decentivize with the points system?

I will finish by saying that you're doing a decent job with GtA in general, though I would personally prefer if there were more players and more overworld levels to explore. Regardless of the overworld, I definitely love that there are lots of quest levels to explore.

-Massokre  

I'm sure he didn't use any of your "property."  

Posted by Skyzer

I'm sure he didn't use any of your "property."

??? The algorithms I used for the ranking system are public domain. And most scalable rank algorithms incorporate logarithms, e.g. Reddit's hot algorithm.

Edit: I should probably state I'm more curious about what aspects of gameplay Thor's seeking to promote with his system. His announcement post doesn't provide enough information to figure that out. And as always, I'm hoping that GtA will grow again, especially because Thor attempts to emphasize the style of gameplay I like infinitely better than iClassic, despite the reservations I have about not including older "property" that also emphasizes the same.