The West had a reformation, scientific revolution, enlightenment, etc. Eventually, I hope it will progress to the point where being religious in the West puts you in the minority.
The Christian Crusades happened 1000 years ago. It's 2016 and loyal followers of Islam still follow every word of their book to the point that they will backpack a bomb to kill themselves and non-believers in the name of their belief.

In the West, the religious pay attention only to the convenient verses about peace and love that suit us and how we run our societies.
Islam has no such luxury. The Quran is the infallible word of their god. Until they are open to interpreting it rather than obeying every word, they are ****ed.  

Posted by Thallen

You're a bad troll, but I'll give a thoughtful reply anyway.

There is something wrong with believing in religion when your religion's holy book explicitly says to murder non-believers. The difference between extremist Muslims and moderate Muslims is that extremist Muslims actually do what the Quran encourages them to.

The entire book may not revolve around this idea, but it is mentioned in many instances. Pretending ISIS's hatred of other religions, women, gays, etc. is some sick perversion of Islam, rather than a direct result of Islamic doctrine, is bogus. Moderate Muslims can choose to ignore Islam's calls to violent action, but I'd argue that the moderates are the ones perverting Islam by inserting secular morality. ISIS is simply following the Quran by each and every word.

On the note of atheism, it's not even close to a religion. How many people would be willing to lay down their lives or murder in the name of the Milky Way? All religions are a problem, but there's no denying that Islam is the biggest problem. One bad apple does not ruin the whole tree, but when you start seeing dozens of them pop up then it's about time to cut the entire tree down.

As a non-religious white person who has been sitting around while white people are essentially blamed for every single bad thing that has ever happened in history, up to hundreds of years before today, I think it's awful that the moment anyone even opens their mouth to criticize Islam, they are shamed. The fear of being wrongly labeled a xenophobe or racist really has a way of destroying the intellectual discourse that is needed to create progress in human civilization. It's time for Islam to behave like a species that has walked on the ****ing moon.

But since when have ALL religions ever killed in the name of their god?

Pretty sure you need to specify 'white people' a bit more. Its the jews who have had it worse.

Think you need to re-read my post, I said that in a nutshell, you shouldn't judge said religion on what their bible or Qur'an or holy books state. Just because it states something what seems impossible, doesn't mean it cannot be true. Learn to read thanks.  

Religion is the worst mistake that people made  

Posted by SomeGuy

I said that in a nutshell, you shouldn't judge said religion on what their bible or Qur'an or holy books state.

Yes you should, just like I should judge your intelligence when you say something like that. Why shouldn't I? What's your reasoning?
I didn't read James and the Giant Peach and go out and try to live in a ****ing oversized fruit. I didn't read the Harry Potter series and shove a broomstick up my ass and run around the house. I'd be an idiot if I did, right?

So, why should anyone be excused for following the equally-as-stupid nonsense written in the Bible or Quran?  

Posted by Thallen

Yes you should, just like I should judge your intelligence when you say something like that. Why shouldn't I? What's your reasoning?

You should indeed, the whole religions are based on said books  

Posted by Thallen

Yes you should, just like I should judge your intelligence when you say something like that. Why shouldn't I? What's your reasoning?
I didn't read James and the Giant Peach and go out and try to live in a ****ing oversized fruit. I didn't read the Harry Potter series and shove a broomstick up my ass and run around the house. I'd be an idiot if I did, right?

So, why should anyone be excused for following the equally-as-stupid nonsense written in the Bible or Quran?

I'm a christian myself, and he has a good point. It's a matter of choice if you follow any of the writings in any of the holy books or anything for that matter. You will and can always be judged by any decision you make

+rep for the Harry Potter example for the kiddos  

Posted by Conquest

No; the media is Jewish owned, as is Hollywood. Israel is an illegal state created by a guerrilla militia who bribed the revolving democratic state of America. The federal reserve is occupied by other various Jews. Judaism is generally a supremacist chosenness belief system; thus, their political agenda is to glorify Jews. A Zionist Jew, Larry Silverstein, purchased the WTC complex, took terrorist insurance out on it and 6 weeks later in cahoots with Israeli bribes & the government decided to professionally demolish these towers to create a smoking gun that would expand Israeli territory.

People are upset about what is happening because for over a decade the Israeli powered-media has been crying wolf to ask us for donations, telling everyone that they are our greatest allies, and demonizing Islam to ethnically cleanse the Middle East in favor of Judaism. If for over a decade television had been empathizing with Islam and telling everyone how we need to band together and help these countries, and that they are good people—then everyone around us would be obsessed with saving Islamic lives.

The general population is sheep, no different than the general population of an ant colony is drones. Your theory, while wonderfully considered, is only a tiny portion of reality.

lol ok m8  

Posted by Platinum

We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.
Source:
http://quran.com/3/151

copied and pasted from another thread:

Holy Quran (3:56,151)
3:56, and 3:151 are talking about punishment in the afterlife for unbelievers. If you don’t believe in the Islamic account of Hell, not much to worry about, is there?

Posted by Crono

thx i was too lazy to look it up myself, point still stands.

If you would take the time to read the whole event,a group of people would come to the mountains at the brink of dawn to get them food,clothes and other stuff.(btw,living for 3 days without food or water is possible)  

Posted by Alexmo

Religion is the worst mistake that people made

lol no it isn't. it's generally harmless beliefs that make it easy to spread some basic ethics and moraility, along with some mythology and such. abrahamic religions are just a special case because they became so big and powerful. they snowballed out of control and society is just now beginning to break away from it. they will die off in another millennium.

@thallen i cringe everytime someone brings up the crusades, as if it justifies what idiots do/believe in modern times.  

Posted by Thallen

Yes you should, just like I should judge your intelligence when you say something like that. Why shouldn't I? What's your reasoning?
I didn't read James and the Giant Peach and go out and try to live in a ****ing oversized fruit. I didn't read the Harry Potter series and shove a broomstick up my ass and run around the house. I'd be an idiot if I did, right?

So, why should anyone be excused for following the equally-as-stupid nonsense written in the Bible or Quran?

Why should you believe in Science if all you have is books and peoples say? Science is written down in books just like religion...those books are supposed evidence just like a book is to science dimwit.

Big difference in that of a bible or Qu'ran and that of a Roahl Dahl book.

Let me tell you something you idiotic snob. People believing in a religion affects you in no way, so you SHOULD NOT be judging people by what they believe...should i judge you for believing in science? No. Do I? No.
Perhaps I should judge you on your short minded intellect.

You don't judge people because of their race or sexuality (Unless your even more of a snob than first thought.) Pretty sure YOU wouldn't like it if you believed in something and people were throwing crude remarks and not letting you believe in it. Let people believe in something, pretty sure you believe in things also? Like 9/11 was done by terrorists? Ignorance is bliss sometimes.  

Posted by SomeGuy

Why should you believe in Science if all you have is books and peoples say? Science is written down in books just like religion...those books are supposed evidence just like a book is to science dimwit.

Lol, not even close babyyyy.

Science can be proven.

Or rather, it HAS been proven and will continue to be proven until we're all dead.  

Posted by MBK

asfd

Do you at least understand why non-Muslims have these views on Islam? It is not only from misunderstanding the holy books. No where in the world today is there any other religion in which people of that religion are committing acts of terror in the name of said religion.

And one final question: do you believe that the IS are justified in their actions?  

Posted by Crono

lol no it isn't. it's generally harmless beliefs that make it easy to spread some basic ethics and moraility, along with some mythology and such. abrahamic religions are just a special case because they became so big and powerful. they snowballed out of control and society is just now beginning to break away from it. they will die off in another millennium.

@thallen i cringe everytime someone brings up the crusades, as if it justifies what idiots do/believe in modern times.

But the thing is that over time everything becomes corrupt even religion so over time a few Muslims thought their religion is the best so they want to wipe out other ones or make others join their cause  

News regarding the French Police Raid: 2 Suspects Dead, 1 Suspect Holed up in Apartment in Northern Suburb of Paris.

A woman has died after detonating a suicide belt during a police raid in Saint-Denis targeting the suspected mastermind behind the deadly Paris attacks, police say.
There was an exchange of gunfire during the operation in Saint-Denis, which a police source said was targeting Abdelhamid Abaaoud, who is suspected of being behind the series of coordinated terrorists attacks across the French capital.

Police said two people died during the siege, including the woman who blew herself up, and that three people had been arrested.

It is not clear if Abaaoud is one of two to four people thought to be inside.
Source:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-1...-paris/6952078  

There are people every single morning @ bustops & trainstops who yell some arabic (sounds at least like it) language and I get heartatacks every single time.
Ex: I'm waiting in a crowd of people for my train to arrive and suddenly someone from a bit far away suddenly starts yelling arabic sentences, just why, why do that.

Also there are a bunch of bomb threats here too but I dont think anything has really happened yet.
I wonder if its like that in the US and other bigger cities too, something like that has never happened here before :/