Posted by Cookie Xanadu

There's your problem. You need to not listen to these complaints when you know that a nerf is fully needed and you know exactly how to fix it. Like I said earlier; take Era for example. A massive gun nerf happened and everyone complained.

Learn to make a decision and stick with it

Just thought that was funny hehe.  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

if they wanted to they could rebalance every gun and change them completely.

You're an idiot.  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

Yea well you can't refund in era because stefan and uni didn't want it. And you can't stick with it when you have 200 people crying in start and spamming every staff because even if I choose not to change it back someone else will. You probably don't know about the flame thrower nerf since you dont play, but it's basically a free gun that is extremely op, and after I nerfed it they all took to the forums crying and the next day it had been changed back.
Era and iEra balancing work differently, since there is no irl money used in era, if they wanted to they could rebalance every gun and change them completely. Something like that isn't possible in iEra

Wrong, if you want to get down to it, by proxy people spend money on Era through purchasing gelats (like purchasing gralats on iEra) and then buying potions to sell for gralats (Now both have paid for money) They both paid for money. What they do with it is up to them. They do not directly pay for the weapons, they pay for the money. Even if they complain, so what. A nerf that's needed should be applied and kept to balance game play. Ignore their whining and do what actually fixes the game. Don't cave in because people whine about a nerf to their clearly overpowered game breaking gun. Seriously, ya'll need to stick with your decisions.  

Posted by Cookie Xanadu

Wrong, if you want to get down to it, by proxy people spend money on Era through purchasing gelats (like purchasing gralats on iEra) and then buying potions to sell for gralats (Now both have paid for money) They both paid for money. What they do with it is up to them. They do not directly pay for the weapons, they pay for the money. Even if they complain, so what. A nerf that's needed should be applied and kept to balance game play. Ignore their whining and do what actually fixes the game. Don't cave in because people whine about a nerf to their clearly overpowered game breaking gun. Seriously, ya'll need to stick with your decisions.

That's different though, from what i've gathered based of the official forums, you technically aren't allowed to be using gelats to gain money in era, and so it's to bad if your gun is nerfed because you used an unorthodox method to get that money

Posted by DarkKnight

You're an idiot.

Why do you use these forums when you have absolutely 0 insightful or positive input. All of your posts are either negative or meaningless. You're like GOAT just not even remotely funny.
And the guns can and have been completely overhauled. I read a post on the official forums a month or two ago where the new gun admin had rebalanced the majority of guns on the server. And the stats for other guns before that had been changed countless times by gun admins before him  

Do you honestly think that Ish can just "change" stats without ANY backlash or repercussions at all? Think before you say stupid **** like that when you don't even PLAY Era.

The only REAL change was that he made the AA12, because of the photo below.

See this thread for more info: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134269686  

Posted by DarkKnight

Do you honestly think that Ish can just "change" stats without ANY backlash or repercussions at all? Think before you say stupid **** like that when you don't even PLAY Era.

The only REAL change was that he made the AA12, because of the photo below.

See this thread for more info: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134269686

I'm not talking about the aa12, he changed an entire list of guns and had a changelog on the forums.
And even if I am imagining seeing a thread which I didn't, what your saying only reinforces my statement that if era cant change guns without backlash then how can iera with 20x the playerbase  

Sam, man up. Do you not think that every mmo has this problem? That people in a different mmo out there somewhere just accept balance changes? For the sake of iEra's future, I urge you to get this situation under control. Yes, the community has a minimal say in it, but at the end of the day it's your job to keep weapons balanced, and you can't let whiney players get in the way of you doing your job.  

Posted by Lazerlatte

Sam, man up. Do you not think that every mmo has this problem? That people in a different mmo out there somewhere just accept balance changes? For the sake of iEra's future, I urge you to get this situation under control. Yes, the community has a minimal say in it, but at the end of the day it's your job to keep weapons balanced, and you can't let whiney players get in the way of you doing your job.

The whiney players are the majority. You can't pass new laws by having one person ignore everyone else, it has to the majority of people.
You cannot say I just have to 'man up' when I have already told you that not only is it the majority that gets the most say but because they have spent so much real money it's probably illegal to completely change the guns stats as planned until they are the ones who decide they want balance.
If you want this to change, when people are asking for buffs or nerfs, or saying a nerf was unjust, instead of staying silent and posting nothing support the changes so that more people do aswell. Like I already said again, nothing will change until the player mindsets do, there is an extent to how much things can change when 80% don't like it which is why nothing major has really happened in the 3-4 years this game has been out  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

You're like GOAT just not even remotely funny.

the donghae family stands strong!!!  

smh just make a flak cannon on iera to compensate

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

I'm not talking about the aa12, he changed an entire list of guns and had a changelog on the forums.

Changes like clip from 30 to 28. That's not even a change at all, that's like a tweak.  

Posted by DarkKnight

smh just make a flak cannon on iera to compensate



Changes like clip from 30 to 28. That's not even a change at all, that's like a tweak.

28/3 is like 9.33-
AA12 is like the silent bulldozer of P.K.!  

losing two bullets isn't losing 9.33 bullets.  

Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM

And you can't stick with it when you have 200 people crying in start and spamming every staff because even if I choose not to change it back someone else will. You probably don't know about the flame thrower nerf since you dont play, but it's basically a free gun that is extremely op, and after I nerfed it they all took to the forums crying and the next day it had been changed back.

Shiiiiiiit son. Put your god damn foot in the ground and say enough is enough. You want balanced weapons. This is the type of crap required to make balanced weapons. If you dont like it, sell it or dont use it anymore or quit playing the game. If you stick around youre sending out the message that its ok to do this stuff. I know you cant do this type of stuff with the bar and stuff cause they are real money being payed here for the most part. But with the flamethrower since its free yea take a stand. Tell snk to **** off and let you do what you were hired to do.

Dont listen to the backlash. 89% of people are retarted n ****.  

This guys words of wisdom got me dumbfounded. Seriously tell snk to **** off. Hes not doing **** but being a fairy. Hes the worst manager ever for one he cant release an update on time at all hes lazy as ****.  

Sorry, but the iEra community is, by far and away, the most bitchy and whiny community I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing - this coming from someone that browses League forums, which is infinitely harder to balance than a 2D iOS "shooter" that looks and plays like it was developed in 1980.

However, despite the younger target demographic, after reading this thread and sniffing around looking at staff-player interaction on EGo, I now feel like it's completely justified and the players are no longer at fault. If I had ever actually played this game, I sure as hell would be pissed off at the faulty administration and the way the higher-ups run the staff team like puppets. Staff in Graal has always been a spotty subject with claims of favoritism and questionable management, but this is just ridiculous.