But i like cannons.

Me matt imprint and fp4 blew up a small island
And a forest  

Posted by BroozeB

Yeah...um, considering there are no rules to follow considering this is just a playground server then I would say that's the reason for the lava walls and TNT filled islands. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK WE WOULD BLOW THE **** OUT OF PEOPLE'S TOWNS IF THE SERVER WASN'T GETTING RESTARTED LOL

Yes.


Yes people would. Even with the rules in place it didn't stop griefers. Letting them use lava and TNT would be a nightmare. Might as well spawn a bunch of enderdragons.  

Posted by BroozeB

Yeah...um, considering there are no rules to follow considering this is just a playground server then I would say that's the reason for the lava walls and TNT filled islands. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK WE WOULD BLOW THE **** OUT OF PEOPLE'S TOWNS IF THE SERVER WASN'T GETTING RESTARTED LOL

According to everyone whining about the map being reset, they got the impression the map was sticking around. And either way, yes, yes I do think that even if the server wasn't getting restarted that people would abuse TNT. I don't doubt it for a second.  

Posted by Chaotic

But i like cannons.

Me matt imprint and fp4 blew up a small island
And a forest

I made a 4 directional double barreled cannon. It shoots two TNT for every direction.

Still trying to figure out how to make a diagonal cannon.  

Posted by Higbey

Yes.


Yes people would. Even with the rules in place it didn't stop griefers. Letting them use lava and TNT would be a nightmare. Might as well spawn a bunch of enderdragons.

Only dumbasses like Griefer #1 and Griefer #2 would do that. Like you! You would probably blow up Fireenn's cows!
Keep in mind there's an ********iefing system that's pretty much flawless, griefers beware. If actual players who had brains knew something WASN'T getting thrown out then they wouldn't trash it, however if it IS getting trashed than might as well have as much fun as you can while it lasts.  

Posted by BroozeB

Only dumbasses like Griefer #1 and Griefer #2 would do that. Like you! You would probably blow up Fireenn's cows!
Keep in mind there's an ********iefing system that's pretty much flawless, griefers beware. If actual players who had brains knew something WASN'T getting thrown out then they wouldn't trash it, however if it IS getting trashed than might as well have as much fun as you can while it lasts.

To most griefers they don't care about punishments. The whole "this isn't permanent, of course they don't care!" wouldn't really matter because they wouldn't care in the first place. And while we do have a decent system in place for griefing, it doesn't prevent griefing. So no, I don't trust players with TNT. Players didn't seem to mind before the reset, so I don't think they'll mind after.

I have many times sat and had fun with various players with things like spawning mobs and such and doing things they normally wouldn't be able to do. If players enjoy stuff like making cannons and the such that much I'm sure mods will have a little fun occasionally. But to give TNT to players? Absolutely not.

Hell, we can't even trust players with simple things like redstone.  

Posted by Dusty

To most griefers they don't care about punishments. The whole "this isn't permanent, of course they don't care!" wouldn't really matter because they wouldn't care in the first place. And while we do have a decent system in place for griefing, it doesn't prevent griefing. So no, I don't trust players with TNT. Players didn't seem to mind before the reset, so I don't think they'll mind after.

I have many times sat and had fun with various players with things like spawning mobs and such and doing things they normally wouldn't be able to do. If players enjoy stuff like making cannons and the such that much I'm sure mods will have a little fun occasionally. But to give TNT to players? Absolutely not.

Hell, we can't even trust players with simple things like redstone.

Well how I see it is we can trust players, but the thing is the overworld would get pretty ****ed up really fast. Do you know how many times a creeper has came behind me while I was working on my house? Higbey was watching me make my wheat farm when he noticed a creeper coming towards me and it exploded, then ANOTHER one came right after and did the same thing...it would look even worse than those horrid swamps, mushroom biomes, or giant crevices.
I'm kind of tired of hearing, "We can't trust them" because to be honest Graal has a large community, however there's only a small amount of players who actually are recognized such as Higbey, Rufus, Callimuc, and Arichi. We should be able to trust each other since we're all friends, the only people we should be cautious of are "Apprentice Shadow Dark Lord".  

Posted by Dusty

Hell, we can't even trust players with simple things like redstone.

not my fault the redstone wiring is flawed and can't make loops in multiplayer without lagging.

Being able to repeat non stop is very useful when designing things with redstone.

It's not so much griefers, it's the fact that we all have tempers, and if someone gets pissed off they can blow up others stuff and start a grief war.

Also we have a anti creeper explosion mod that we will get back with the rest of the plugins  

Posted by Higbey

not my fault the redstone wiring is flawed and can't make loops in multiplayer without lagging.

Because it is a loop that relies on serverside logic and the frequent sending of block/lighting updates. Using timeout(0.1); on a serverside NPC is to the same effect. (You don't do it.)  

Posted by BroozeB

Well how I see it is we can trust players, but the thing is the overworld would get pretty ****ed up really fast. Do you know how many times a creeper has came behind me while I was working on my house? Higbey was watching me make my wheat farm when he noticed a creeper coming towards me and it exploded, then ANOTHER one came right after and did the same thing...it would look even worse than those horrid swamps, mushroom biomes, or giant crevices.
I'm kind of tired of hearing, "We can't trust them" because to be honest Graal has a large community, however there's only a small amount of players who actually are recognized such as Higbey, Rufus, Callimuc, and Arichi. We should be able to trust each other since we're all friends, the only people we should be cautious of are "Apprentice Shadow Dark Lord".

Trusted players are given certain privileges, but TNT isn't one of them. It's just not a good balance of benefit:risk.  

My usual server uses a plugin that prevents TNT from blowing up.  

I can't believe a 'stable' build hasn't been released yet.  

Bukkit needs to hurry up already. It's been almost a month since the full game has come out.  

Can't wait  

Dear whoever blew up our village,

You left a piece of TNT.