First of all, a round of applause to Hoyt for the finishing. If there was a single aspect of this game that I'd give a nod to, it'd be this.

Posted by J*

Well said small intellectual boy, now let me explain myself.

WHO IS THIS SMALL INTELLECTUAL BOY, AND WHY IS HE NOT PRESIDENT?!

Guys, I've said this time and again in previous threads... NUKE THIS CRAP BOMB AND GO VANILLA!!!

How many more gloriously overpowered death machines are going to enter this game, and get thrown in the closet after the Staff finally come to their senses? How many more pistols do you want before you finally decide "Eh, they all shoot about the same, I'll stick with the .45"? How many more utterly ridiculous ideas will you accept- like the over-sized red & blue anime throwing swords (here's looking at you, you ******ed weeaboo admins)- before the developers realize that this game is based on the American 1800's?

I said it once, I'll say it again... I'm over there trying to weave through a stream of bullets while 'Johnny & Suzy-No Skill' are over sitting in a corner, blasting me in the back with a shotgun.

If you're a "pro sparrer" why don't you show off your "pro-ness" by fighting a .45 kid with another .45? (Instead of those ******ed spamming Freddies that can be used by any 5yr-old on the planet!)

I have the Turkey Blaster! I have the VIP Boomerang! I have a Rustle Shotty... (Jesus Christ I couldn't imagine having a C-Bow or Nature Destroyer)... but most importantly, I have my pride... because I know it's all disgusting. Everyone in this thread knows it's disgusting!... So how much more can you take?!

This game is a three-legged horse. Put ol' Lassie out of 'er misery... or GO VANILLA.  

Posted by TomatoPanda

Still dont understand why your sucking off the vanderwoodsens to become a staff messiah its quite sad especially since west playercount gonna drop to 150 once delteria releases.

Oh no you caught me! Please don't tell Sarah or Jeff I'm scared they won't hire me!

Nah but in reality from my past there's no way for me to get hired(at least that's what I think but OH WELL), you know, I used to be in the same boat as you Tomato, giving hw crap for no reason trying to make a difference, get a new manager, well I'm going to tell you right now, blabbing about it in a forum or on the server isn't going to do anything. All the staff do is laugh at you and make fun of how dumb you look. Hopefully you'll soon figure out they do a lot, they aren't paid for what they do, they volunteer, they got lives beyond graal as well, I mean I'm pretty sure 80% of them are in school or collage. Yes I can see where you think there's broken promises of stuff not being released (most known Crafting) and I don't have a answer to this but I can tell you it's not cause they aren't working on it, it's because there's lots of problems with it, or it keeps getting pushed back cause of trying to pump out content for holidays or other ideas they have, because there's only so many admins that can do only so many things.

Now I rarely ever talk to any staff, unless I encounter them in game, I rarely ever pm them and when I do it's for a question or reporting someone. The one staff I talk to the most though is Pepper because obviously we base in Silence together and we discovered we based with each other with iFreeze on iEra. Now how come from your eyes when players are friends with admins or trying to be friends with them it's "sucking off to be hired"? Wouldn't you be a hypocrite for that cause you base and are friends with CTP who was a Sheirff?!

And if anyone is curious why I'm always backing up staff and Ol' West and trying to make tomato (or anyone else) look like a fool of himself, is well
1. I used to be like him, except I was more ruthless
2. I'm honestly sick of seeing these posts FROM ANYONE complaining about staff, cause complaining won't do a thing
3. Your all really fricking annoying when you do it, like 80% of the stuff is stupid and irrelevant

Yeah this was a rantful post (and a post where I've gotten very annoyed for the first time in a long time) and I'll expect some roasts and probably some grammar corrections cause that's how cancerous you all are, but now BACK ON TOPIC SOMETHING ABOUT BOOMERANG NEEDING NERF (Not really it's easy to counter)  

Explain to me how it can be countered without using wooden rifles messiah. And if you do explain, put it in the shoes of everyone outside of america who has a bit of delay.  

Posted by Messiah

Oh no you caught me! Please don't tell Sarah or Jeff I'm scared they won't hire me!

Nah but in reality from my past there's no way for me to get hired(at least that's what I think but OH WELL), you know, I used to be in the same boat as you Tomato, giving hw crap for no reason trying to make a difference, get a new manager, well I'm going to tell you right now, blabbing about it in a forumor on the server isn't going to do anything.All the staff do is laugh at you and make fun of how dumb you look.Hopefully you'll soon figure out they do a lot, they aren't paid for what they do, they volunteer, they got lives beyond graal as well, I mean I'm pretty sure 80% of them are in school or collage. Yes I can see where you think there's broken promises of stuff not being released (most known Crafting) and I don't have a answer to this but I can tell you it's not cause they aren't working on it, it's because there's lots of problems with it, or it keeps getting pushed back cause of trying to pump out content for holidays or other ideas they have, because there's only so many admins that can do only so many things.

Now I rarely ever talk to any staff, unless I encounter them in game, I rarely ever pm them and when I do it's for a question or reporting someone. The one staff I talk to the most though is Pepper because obviously we base in Silence together and we discovered we based with each other with iFreeze on iEra. Now how come from your eyes when players arefriends with admins or trying to be friends with them it's "sucking off to be hired"? Wouldn't you be a hypocrite for that cause you base and are friends with CTP who was a Sheirff?!

And if anyone is curious why I'm always backing up staff and Ol' West and trying to make tomato (or anyone else) look like a fool of himself, is well
1. I used to be like him, except I was more ruthless
2. I'm honestly sick of seeing these posts FROM ANYONE complaining about staff, cause complaining won't do a thing
3. Your all really fricking annoying when you do it, like 80% of the stuff is stupid and irrelevant

Yeah this was a rantful post (and a post where I've gotten very annoyed for the first time in a long time) and I'll expect some roasts and probably some grammar corrections cause that's how cancerous you all are, but now BACK ON TOPIC SOMETHING ABOUT BOOMERANG NEEDING NERF (Not really it's easy to counter)

What do you think forums are for? for us to give useless ideas that wont be added and to glorify the staff team? The day I glorify the staff team is the day they start being more open to their community and stop hiding **** (no other game hides updates and releases like graal does and it makes no dam sense)

Sounds like the staff team needs to grow tf up then. Making fun of its own community just going to destroy the game more and you guys wonder why everyone thinks silence is corrupt af.

Name me one "big" game content update they released in 2017 other then lottery which they use once every 3 months now? If all the team can do is produce holiday content then the manager needs to do something about it.

So thats what happened to you.

You litterally told lafez you are trying to get hired? Ever since then you have been defending the staff team 24/7.

The last thing id ever do is join the west staff team under HW as manager. My views would probably get corrupted with bullsht if I did.  

Boomerangs are pretty op yeh  

Boomerangs are weak asf bro make them 5x stronger AT MINIMUM  

Posted by Messiah

Oh no you caught me! Please don't tell Sarah or Jeff I'm scared they won't hire me!

Nah but in reality from my past there's no way for me to get hired(at least that's what I think but OH WELL), you know, I used to be in the same boat as you Tomato, giving hw crap for no reason trying to make a difference, get a new manager, well I'm going to tell you right now, blabbing about it in a forum or on the server isn't going to do anything. All the staff do is laugh at you and make fun of how dumb you look. Hopefully you'll soon figure out they do a lot, they aren't paid for what they do, they volunteer, they got lives beyond graal as well, I mean I'm pretty sure 80% of them are in school or collage. Yes I can see where you think there's broken promises of stuff not being released (most known Crafting) and I don't have a answer to this but I can tell you it's not cause they aren't working on it, it's because there's lots of problems with it, or it keeps getting pushed back cause of trying to pump out content for holidays or other ideas they have, because there's only so many admins that can do only so many things.

Now I rarely ever talk to any staff, unless I encounter them in game, I rarely ever pm them and when I do it's for a question or reporting someone. The one staff I talk to the most though is Pepper because obviously we base in Silence together and we discovered we based with each other with iFreeze on iEra. Now how come from your eyes when players are friends with admins or trying to be friends with them it's "sucking off to be hired"? Wouldn't you be a hypocrite for that cause you base and are friends with CTP who was a Sheirff?!

And if anyone is curious why I'm always backing up staff and Ol' West and trying to make tomato (or anyone else) look like a fool of himself, is well
1. I used to be like him, except I was more ruthless
2. I'm honestly sick of seeing these posts FROM ANYONE complaining about staff, cause complaining won't do a thing
3. Your all really fricking annoying when you do it, like 80% of the stuff is stupid and irrelevant

Yeah this was a rantful post (and a post where I've gotten very annoyed for the first time in a long time) and I'll expect some roasts and probably some grammar corrections cause that's how cancerous you all are, but now BACK ON TOPIC SOMETHING ABOUT BOOMERANG NEEDING NERF

Might as well complain about them because no matter what is said, it won't help anyways with HW as manager and Jeff with the power he has. (Although I don't doubt she is good at leveling as I heard from someone else but she just isn't capable of managing two servers. Maybe she shouldn't manage a server at all.)  

Well a few things I need to point out from both perspectives as a long time player and ex staff

1. HW does not limit anyone on what they want to do, it is entirely down to the person making it (I.e a Gani Artist making 2 quests indipendantly) aswell as I have witnessed the management let everyone on the staff team have their own creative freedom and learn new skills.

2. You understand Graal is someone's business, it makes money. What has repeatedly made a lot of money on a regular basis year in and out are HOLIDAY ITEMS. This is why they are such a priority, and when a team of volunteers gives it their all to make a good holiday event + items and all new content it is understandably tiring and motivation to create more is very difficult.
The reason we all loved Alpho is because he had the time, dedication and talent to create wonderful things in the time he had, I can promise you there are not many people who will create the things he did just for the pure fun of it with that level of graal development knowledge.

3. The population of talented delevopers & scripters about. Pretty self-explanatory, there aren't many. And the ones I do know of and respect are already occupied on projects elsewhere. This makes it very hard for these people to fix or create things like the crafting system and get support for their issues.

As a player you will always see the wrong in the game, yet if you decide to be optimistic about it you will realise why you fell in love with it in the first place.  

Posted by TomatoPanda

1. What do you think forums are for? for us to give useless ideas that wont be added and to glorify the staff team? The day I glorify the staff team is the day they start being more open to their community and stop hiding **** (no other game hides updates and releases like graal does and it makes no dam sense)

2. Sounds like the staff team needs to grow tf up then. Making fun of its own community just going to destroy the game more and you guys wonder why everyone thinks silence is corrupt af.

3. Name me one "big" game content update they released in 2017 other then lottery which they use once every 3 months now? If all the team can do is produce holiday content then the manager needs to do something about it.

So thats what happened to you.

4. You litterally told lafez you are trying to get hired? Ever since then you have been defending the staff team 24/7.

1. Yeah but not to blab about the same things over, and over, and over again, come up with something new to blab about, like "Why do graal players get salty" or "why aren't cancerous players banned from graal"

2. Yes I do agree with you on this, I would like to see what's going on, but why would they tell us anything and when it will be released, we're all cancerous af, cause I could totally see it, we'd all beg for them to work on it, we'd all want constant updates on the project, we'd be annoyed if they never gave us updates, then we'd get pissed if it wasn't released on time

3. I don't have a answer for you, and I don't really care at this point cause all I'm doing now is giving you attention (which we all know you dearly love)

4. False been defending the staff way before I told Lafez I wanted to be hired, been doing it cause I'm annoyed of seeing the same crap everyday "fire hw" "fire Jeff" like you know I was on the bandwagon for CTP to get fired, I'm gonna be honest, I was pissed when he returned as a Deputy

Now I'm gonna drop it here cause tomato I know we could argue about this till the day we die, it's quite obvious we both hate each other, and I know your going to comment on this post, I'll ready it, I'll probably cringe as you probably cringe with my posts, but I'm not going to comment.

Posted by J*

Explain to me how it can be countered without using wooden rifles messiah. And if you do explain, put it in the shoes of everyone outside of america who has a bit of delay.

It is not that hard to stand out of the range of the boom and avoid it, even if your not in America, and I haven't been using my wooden to counter the boomerang since thus one has been released, and if you think that boomerang is annoying, I'll just go back the 100 HS boom and chase you with it, I've been using the 45 a lot lately cause I've gotten bored of using wooden, the most recent time I've used it was when Cursed pked Silence, and I know Spring and Tomato saw me using it  

Posted by J*

Explain to me how it can be countered without using wooden rifles messiah. And if you do explain, put it in the shoes of everyone outside of america who has a bit of delay.

I could show you if you wanted. It isn't that hard to dodge them. On the other hand, As I said they are a glitched item which in my personal opinion means that they should be removed. The only reason I didn't say this earlier is because there are far more important issues to deal with then removing a boomerang.

I've flawed people who have rushed me with a boomerang before. All you have to do is move to the side and spam where you think they are going to go.  

Posted by Messiah

Now I'm gonna drop it here cause tomato I know we could argue about this till the day we die, it's quite obvious we both hate each other, and I know your going to comment on this post, I'll ready it, I'll probably cringe as you probably cringe with my posts, but I'm not going to comment.

As much as id love arguing more on this I guess Ill stop since this process has already happened before and will in the future just know once 2019 hits and theres still no crafting or gang houses for vulcan. Im giving hell.

anyways back on topic the boomerang heres an IDEA maybe a short time solution since yes theres a decrease in developers and hoyt totally is busy with something else lel, is increasing the freeze time for the boomerang  

What's wrong with boomerangs  

Posted by MasGio

What's wrong with boomerangs

That’s why you read a thread first, silly  

Posted by MasGio

What's wrong with boomerangs

They weak as HELL! we need to make them 5x stronger!  

Get Wooden rifle ez