Before this thread derails into Did we get "played like a fiddle" by the Russians or not? minigame (which i belive is already a thread?) I have pulled the final draft of the Proposal or what they call ""Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" If anyone is curious enough to try and read it, as well as attached it to this post in case of "shenanigans".

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Here is Ajit Pai's "Final Draft of his Proposal"

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Posted by Areo

I didn’t say it was proof of collusion... I’m merely saying the story of Russian interference is not fake news. I’m not arguing about what it means, I’m saying that it happened.

Got any proof? James Comey didn't and got fired because of it and wanted more money.

Posted by Areo

Also, the intelligence committee uses the phrase “high confidence” as in analytic confidence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_confidence
“High confidence generally indicates judgments based on high-quality information, and/or the nature of the issue makes it possible to render a solid judgment. A “high confidence” judgment is not a fact or a certainty, however, and still carries a risk of being wrong” so I trust the judgement and what is implied.

So it's a hypothesis. Or an educated guess based on what will happen, or in this case, what did happen. There's been hearings, there's been everything already and there is still ZERO PROOF. If you make an accusation or a hypothesis, you need to prove it. Its all just words at this point, or, nothing.

Posted by Areo

I’m not arguing about Hillary Clinton. I believe that her crimes and feelings of being “above the law” stand in plain sight, and we don’t need to bring them up in this conversation.

im not arguing about her either.

Posted by Areo

Besides this, there is evidence of Russian troll accounts on Facebook posting political messages... that is clearly another country attempting to interfere with an election.

By that logic we should be going after all the people that started to talk about US politics and saying "vote Trump" or "vote Bernie" or "Vote Clinton" on twatter that are not US citizens. They clearly are influencing an election. But not the ILLEGAL immigrants and ARE NOT US citizens who can vote in US elections.

Posted by Areo

I’ll leave this obvious bait statement alone, it has no real connection to what was being said. However, I will add one more statement to my previous one; when national estimates say that 75~ percent of individuals are in favor of Net Neutrality and we are still pushing toward a repeal I think that speaks for itself about how much we are represented.

75% according to whom? Lame stream main stream news networks? The Government? I haven't received any calls about my support for net neutrality.  

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Posted by captainhaxs

Before this thread derails into Did we get "played like a fiddle" by the Russians or not?

No not at all. If anything, the Russians have been having their teeth kicked in and still are. Russia's economy is still in shambles, their military is still a joke and have massive logistical problems, underfunded, under trained, and technologically inferior to the west.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No not at all. If anything, the Russians have been having their teeth kicked in and still are. Russia's economy is still in shambles, their military is still a joke and have massive logistical problems, underfunded, under trained, and technologically inferior to the west.

Oh yeah?????? Well you’re still the worst gun admin to work on zone. That’s what geno said in discord  

Posted by GOAT

Oh yeah?????? Well you’re still the worst gun admin to work on zone. That’s what geno said in discord

How has your ass been here for 5 years and you still cannot do good banter?  

I just read the title and jumped in here. News says whatever website that suggested us to do(call or email) were considered as a spam and ignored. If ur supporting net neutrality, ur only hope is from voting.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No not at all. If anything, the Russians have been having their teeth kicked in and still are. Russia's economy is still in shambles, their military is still a joke and have massive logistical problems, underfunded, under trained, and technologically inferior to the west.

I have to agree with some of that but i don't think there military is a joke, there the 2nd strongest country right behind america they have over 7000 Warheads and sometimes they beat america in having more of certain things like tanks.  

Posted by Ximithie

I have to agree with some of that but i don't think there military is a joke, there the 2nd strongest country right behind america they have over 7000 Warheads and sometimes they beat america in having more of certain things like tanks.

There nuclear deterence is literally the only thing keeping them a spotlight on the world stage. Militarys are extremely expensive to run and maintain. There is no way russia can run that big ass military with only 2.13 teillion ruplees (or 62 billion USD) AND fight 2 wars at the same time. If you take nukes outta the equation, Russian military is a joke  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

There nuclear deterence is literally the only thing keeping them a spotlight on the world stage. Militarys are extremely expensive to run and maintain. There is no way russia can run that big ass military with only 2.13 teillion ruplees (or 62 billion USD) AND fight 2 wars at the same time. If you take nukes outta the equation, Russian military is a joke

I still don't think so, but at least there helping in Syria getting rid of those disgusting terrorists which should of never been here in the first place.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

How has your ass been here for 5 years and you still cannot do good banter?

That hurts lil Donald  

This topic is boring for me but I would agree that it sounds horrible to get rid of net neutrality.  

fortune.com/2017/12/09/fcc-head-ajit-pai-verizons-puppet-net-neutrality/

https://gizmodo.com/leaked-video-sho...elf-1821134881

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...et-at-the-fcc/

“We want to brainwash and groom a Verizon puppet to install as FCC Chairman,” she continues. “Think ‘Manchurian candidate.'”
“That sounds awesome,” replies Pai.


The punch-line of his jokes: it's all true  

Whats the actual date when they make the final decision on if this passes or not?  

Posted by Ryan

Whats the actual date when they make the final decision on if this passes or not?

December 14