Posted by TWIZ

Good because y'all need to start reading more newspapers

gay newspaper company  

Posted by TWIZ

Good because y'all need to start reading more newspapers

What's a newspaper  

Posted by Ximithie

Uh-oh we will even have to pay to play graal on the internet.

It depends on how they do it...

What I'm concerned of, Is how it affects EVERYONE. Graal or not.

By removing Net neutrality. You open the Framework for some pretty scary stuff. It removes the ability for anyone to say what they want. And how they want on things. And instead puts people in a spot where they only see what they can pay for. And then you can control what people in a way think about things. You control a wide array of things. And you can profit off it. And that's what is scary about it. Because it opens the door for "Hey you didnt pay for the entertainment part of your package on internet. Pay more now?"

I found this photo online. Which basically shows exactly what I'm saying. But prices may vary or be larger (Which they probably will be around 15 dollars to 20 per package)

It would be about 25-30 dollars right now. And that isn't even counting the fact small businesses wouldnt be able to compete with bigger bussiness that run things on the Internet. having to pay to be put on the fast lane to compete with a bigger company.  

Posted by Fysez

For example, with net neutrality, ISPs are dictated like monopolies. Even mom-and-pop ISPs. It makes it super hard for new companies to come in if they don't already have a load of money to pay for proving that they aren't interfering with connections.
Another example is that under the Title II, the FCC can add new regulations and internet "laws" without consent from the ISP, and without us as users, rendering the ISP business model a terrible business to even get into.

Really it's more about how net neutrality is implemented than it is about not messing with how you view content. Even before net neutrality, there was nothing wrong with the internet, these ISPs didn't make it a goal to force you to pay more money for services.

Da hell is a "mom and pop ISP?" Are you talking about the people who set up the little tents in the back of a walmart parking lot and the little hole-in-the-wall stores in the back of a mall? Sure their service is cheap, but their quality is just as low as their price. Like Simons said, ISPs are essentially monopolies. They have strongholds over different regions of the country. If you live in California, your only option is Comcrap if you want decent internet connection. If you live in Oklahoma, your only option is Cox if you want decent internet connection.

Well no, ISPs arent going to charge their own customers more money; that's not the point in removing net neutrality. Their goal is to suck money from websites or throttle speeds for that website if they refuse to pay -- sounds no different from a ransom. And if Netflix and other websites are forced to pay criminal amounts of money to ISPs, then Netflix and other websites will have no choice but to charge their customers more for their services. So yes, the burden will in many cases circle back to the households.

Will it be the end of Facebook and Google? No, they can afford to be robbed by ISPs. It will sting a lot, but the big players of the internet will continue to operate. The problem will be for the 99% of the rest of the websites on the internet that don't make enough revenue to pay the mobsters. If ISPs choose to bully all websites (rather than picking and choosing the big ones), a lot of the small to medium sized websites would be severely damaged.

And from a business model perspective, ISPs demanding money from Netflix and Google makes no sense in the value chain (hence all of the above criminal references). ISPs provide value to their customers (us, the internet service subscribers), therefore we pay the ISPs for their infrastructure. But why should websites pay ISPs when ISPs do not add value to the websites' content? ISPs are only threatening to forcibly degrade the value of the websites' content.

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

The net was more free without net neutrality. Now its basically Facebook, Netflix, Amazon and Google that control the internet. Also notice how the main corporations who bitch about it are the ones i just listed. They dont want to lose their power

Explain to me how F, N, A, and G "control the internet." Just because these are some of the most popular and most profitable website corporations doesnt mean they have any power over the rest of the internet. The only argument here would be Google, because they are a search engine; but Google does a fair job at not manipulating search results to discriminate against websites. (On the other hand, Facebook manipulating their newsfeed makes them a ****ing hypocrite for supporting net neutrality). However, removing net neutrality will give ISPs substantial power over literally the entire internet.  

Posted by GOAT

Don't worry, John Oliver will save us again.

Oh boy this guy again. The britbong that was so unfunny his show failed and he left for US.
But seriously though. Break up corporate ISP monopoly colusion, tear down the boundries of where a said ISP group can be, let there be actual competition between competetors, goverment get out.

Posted by twilit

However, removing net neutrality will give ISPs substantial power over literally the entire internet.

Bruh the ISP providers have already had the keys to getting into the internet by 08, locked down and secured cause they were the only ones that could afford to lay down the infastructure and bought out all other competetors. Money talks, if you want a better deal on services you need to talk to them and get good at negotiating (something that 99% of people cannot do to save their lives) or go to a different provider. Now that the different provider is outta the picture and theres only 1 company that can give you acsess you can either not buy their service and wait for them to collapse and cave into your deal or buy it and move on. Now since most people wont do anything about it and stick it to them, whats to stop that company from being greedy? The government, unfortunatly. But then that leads into a whole bunch of nothing and a whole assload of court battles, and nothing happens. The only thing net neutrality did is stop the current cluster fug going on with the 9th district courts decision of AT&T to not allow them to throtle mobile data and that massive court battle thats been going on forever.  

Posted by Fysez

Can't relate, I have that ability. They aren't technically monopolies.

I dont think you are the majority then, I've lived in Arizona, California, Texas, and Alaska in the past few years and it has never been an option.  

Pay to get on facebook? Nty  

Posted by MrSimons

I dont think you are the majority then, I've lived in Arizona, California, Texas, and Alaska in the past few years and it has never been an option.

To be honest, I think that may just be your odd luck. Most areas have multiple service providers to choose from. Like where I am I can get DirecTV or dish, (Currently have DirecTV since my satellite i paid litetally 2700 dollars for since i cant get fast service where i am came from DirecTV to )although I cant get time warner cable where I am ...Oh Ah hem....I mean Spectrum lmao  

This is what happens when you dumb californians support these democrats they finally realized how much a impact the internet was to help Trump win the election so their gonna manipulate it also sorry to inform u dude who im not quoting but Google manipulates a lot to especially when it comes to news  

Posted by Rusix

To be honest, I think that may just be your odd luck. Most areas have multiple service providers to choose from. Like where I am I can get DirecTV or dish, (Currently have DirecTV since my satellite i paid litetally 2700 dollars for since i cant get fast service where i am came from DirecTV to )although I cant get time warner cable where I am ...Oh Ah hem....I mean Spectrum lmao

This thread is about internet service providers, not television.  

Posted by twilit

This thread is about internet service providers, not television.

Aaaannnnndddd I assume you're not aware that DirecTV and Dish and "TV" companies do have a section where they provide internet  

Looks like Trump just got the ability to elect the most federal judiciaries in over 40 years. Best part, all young guys, so there going to be there for a very long time.
>LIBERALS BTFO
>GOOGLE, AMAZON, FACEBOOK, NETFLIX AND INTERNET ADDICTS BTFO
>NET NEUTRALITY BTFO  

Posted by TomatoPanda

This is what happens when you dumb californians support these democrats they finally realized how much a impact the internet was to help Trump win the election so their gonna manipulate it also sorry to inform u dude who im not quoting but Google manipulates a lot to especially when it comes to news

Both of your posts are so stupid that it hurts.  

Posted by TomatoPanda

This is what happens when you dumb californians support these democrats they finally realized how much a impact the internet was to help Trump win the election so their gonna manipulate it also sorry to inform u dude who im not quoting but Google manipulates a lot to especially when it comes to news

>being this ******ed
Internet manipulation and media manipulation was a thing LONG BEFORE trump was ever a thing. Google was manipulating its searches based on highest bidder forever, way before trump was ever a thing. Old news stations have been doing it even longer. Like back in the 60s was the most notable; to be exact around the time of the Tet Offensive is when the news media began their anti war propaganda, because we all knew, this war was going to be a mess. Got so bad even Richard Nixon called the media out on their BS similar to what Trump did, but not on as large of a scale. Remember fox news back in like 2004 and how democrats have been raving on about it as conservative news? Its the same thing with MSNBC, CNN, etc, just the opposite side of the coin and both will go long ways. Including to the point of straight up lying (Trumps tax plan gives the rich the largest tax break. This is false. The individual people in the 19,525-29,000 and 47,750-54,000 get a 15% break while the highest bracket of 423,500+ get a 14.6% tax break) get their point across  

Posted by Rusix

Aaaannnnndddd I assume you're not aware that DirecTV and Dish and "TV" companies do have a section where they provide internet

Satellite internet is strictly inferior to cable internet. No questions.