It doesn't really matter whether illegal immigrants commit crimes or not. All that does is increase or decrease the sense of urgency to the issue. Something needs to be done to improve the border for preventing people from entering America illegally. The number of illegal immigrants America has is problematic. Something also needs to be done about the current people living here illegally. Whether they get deported, become legalized, or get their citizenship - something does need to be done about it. I don't blame people for coming here illegally if it would have taken too long - or have been implausible - for them to come here legally. In fact, if I was in their shoes, I would most likely do the exact same thing. It still doesn't take away from the fact that we have a problem that needs addressed. We can't allow everyone who wants to come into America. It's just implausible. Maybe the system that determines who gets accepted needs to be changed, but we still have the illegal immigration issue.  

Posted by PigParty

It doesn't really matter whether illegal immigrants commit crimes or not. All that does is increase or decrease the sense of urgency to the issue.

Uh, what?

You bet your ass it matters if they commit crimes or not.

Why do you think this is such a big issue to begin with?

Oh wait, because it is and it has an incredible sense of urgency.

People should be free to immigrate here legally but those who did illegally have broken the law and need to be punished.

Posted by Yog

I said white privilege was a huge problem. I'm trying to say the golden age of American history is every day onward.

Then whats your point about Trump?

That he's gonna put down everyone that isn't a white male?

Load of ****, stop getting so paranoid that whatever privilege you have as somebody that isn't a white cis male is somehow going to magically disappear.

Nobody actually cares about privilege until they start making a huge deal about it.  

Posted by 5hift

Uh, what?
You bet your ass it matters if they commit crimes or not.
Why do you think this is such a big issue to begin with?
Oh wait, because it is and it has an incredible sense of urgency.
People should be free to immigrate here legally but those who did illegally have broken the law and need to be punished.

I believe you misread my post. How does it matter as it relates to whether illegal immigration is a problem or not whether illegal immigrants commit crimes or not? What matters is how many illegal immigrants we have. They can contribute to society, but they're still here illegally, which in itself is a problem. It doesn't matter if they commit crimes or not, they're here illegally and something needs to be dome about that. When you get more detailed, it definitely does matter if they commit crimes or not. Maybe ones that commit crimes would be deported while law-abiding ones become citizens. But in the grand scheme, crime doesn't matter when it comes to illegal immigration. The fact that they're here illegally is the problem as it pertains to that specific issue we've been discussing.  

Posted by 5hift

Then whats your point about Trump?

Maybe you should read the ****ing posts I quote. Then you would understand it's directed towards people who think the Golden Age of America was before and of us were born.  

Posted by Yog

Maybe you should read the ****ing posts I quote. Then you would understand it's directed towards people who think the Golden Age of America was before and of us were born.

It depends on what your definition of the 'Golden Age' is. If it's technological or how far we've advanced/evolved, then of course it's the Golden Age right now. But if you're talking about human interaction then I'd have to agree with those people.

There's a lot of disgusting **** out there, maybe the internet just puts it in the spotlight and it was around out there but there's an abundance of disgusting humans right now.

Not to mention the amount of Homeless people have increased over time, so has drug usage, and murder.

Just putting that out there.  

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

That's pretty self-explanatory. It's not necessarily correct to say there's more crime today than there was years ago. The murder rate (per 100,000 people) in 1960 was 5.1, and today, it's 4.5. Murder has actually decreased. The total crime from 1960-2014 increased a fair amount, but so has the population. Obviously some crimes have increased quite a bit, while some have decreased, but overall, the total crime hasn't drastically changed, when compared to the population changes. There's more media, more cellphone footage, more instant news, but not a whole lot has changed overall.  

Posted by 5hift

Lol what?

So voting for Trump will bring back segregation?

Lol. Just lol.



Yeah, yeah, you hate some president that barely even affects you.

Stay in school and worry about your own country.

I just hate the fact that he was ever elected, but again I'm a hater.  

Posted by Illusions

I just hate the fact that he was ever elected, but again I'm a hater.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret this, but... Why do you hate that he was elected?  

Posted by PigParty

I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret this, but... Why do you hate that he was elected?

Yeah do tell.

Hopefully you weren't as paranoid back when Obama was elected president compared to now.

Posted by PigParty

I believe you misread my post. How does it matter as it relates to whether illegal immigration is a problem or not whether illegal immigrants commit crimes or not? What matters is how many illegal immigrants we have. They can contribute to society, but they're still here illegally, which in itself is a problem. It doesn't matter if they commit crimes or not, they're here illegally and something needs to be dome about that. When you get more detailed, it definitely does matter if they commit crimes or not. Maybe ones that commit crimes would be deported while law-abiding ones become citizens. But in the grand scheme, crime doesn't matter when it comes to illegal immigration. The fact that they're here illegally is the problem as it pertains to that specific issue we've been discussing.

Law abiding illegal immigrants still broke the law of immigrating here illegally.

Doesn't exactly make them "law abiding" now, does it?  

Posted by 5hift

Law abiding illegal immigrants still broke the law of immigrating here illegally.

Doesn't exactly make them "law abiding" now, does it?

Statistically, the chances of illegal immigrants committing violent crimes are significantly less than the average citizen. I'd be willing to bet those rioting in New Mexico are legal citizens. Behavior has to do with how you were raised, NOT what your race is.

Doesn't matter how bad you think illegal immigrants are for the country, deporting them is not practical. That's 11 million people you'd need to trial.  

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coincidence?  

Posted by Hillary Clinton on her Facebook page.

When the economy collapsed in 2008, millions of families, disproportionately African-American and Latino, lost their homes, their jobs and their savings. These families were the most affected, as they are behind in income, wealth and families are facing more barriers to access to education. And just when he was talking about the possibility that the real estate market will collapse, Donald Trump said: "I have some hope that happens", Because I could do a lot of money from this situation. How cruel it must be a person to desire an economic crisis that would affect millions of families, all to bring more money to your pocket?

This wasn't an anomaly for trump: his economic plan would help the richest and would negatively affect the middle-class families. Would revoke the financial regulations and let wall street will act out of control. That Trump has as a priority for their own interests above the well-being of the American people is nothing new, but we made it clear that the only person that fight is by himself.

We're not going to allow trump will lead the country to bankruptcy as he took their companies into the ground. We will not allow to dismantle our economy and ruin to working families.

the above  

Posted by Platinum

the above

Either that's not actually from Hillary Clinton, or she needs to learn some serious grammar rules.

Most people know about Trump saying he could make a lot of money from the bubble, but most people don't care. I find it funny how anything that would kill a politician's campaign, doesn't even affect Trump in the slightest. No one votes for Trump because they think he's a good, moral person. They like him because they think he might actually do what he says, while politicians will not. The thing with Trump is that he points out issues that politicians don't, even if he used to do them. Quite a few people profited from the economic crisis. That doesn't mean it's okay, but it meams he was a greedy businessman and would do anything to succeed. Many people (including myself) believe that he can transfer that to the country.

If we're judging Trump for saying he could make money from the economic bubble, then you should really be judging Clinton for breaking the rules and using her private email for gov. purposes, then lying about it and the investigation. I'm the type of person who doesn't care about that email thing, but I just used that to display that it can be turned on anyone else, including Hillary Clinton.  

Posted by PigParty

Either that's not actually from Hillary Clinton, or she needs to learn some serious grammar rules.

You're one to talk.  

Posted by Yog

You're one to talk.

I'm pretty good when it comes to grammar. I don't proofread what I say on here, nor do I spent time really caring. It's easy to simply say "You're one to talk" without anything to back it up.

You're one to talk.