Posted by 5hift

What?

Isn't that what every candidate does?

No, candidates get money from individual donations, and from wealthy businesses/businessmen. Not sure if any candidate has self-funded their own campaign before.

Posted by Mangsi

The only thing I like about Trump is his opinion on the transgender bathroom issues.

Haven't heard him speak on that. I assume he believes they should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as? If so, I'd be glad, because I believe that too.  

Good video:

 

Posted by Thallen

He accepts donations from individuals, not major corporations. That's way different than your normal Republican candidate.

The same is true with Bernie Sanders. My point being, calling it 100% self funded is kind of misleading, nor is it accurate.  

Posted by PigParty

Haven't heard him speak on that. I assume he believes they should be able to use the bathroom of the gender they identify as? If so, I'd be glad, because I believe that too.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...oom-they-want/

I respect that, and a few other things he's said (not getting into those things) but I still think he'd be a bad president.  

Posted by Yog

The same is true with Bernie Sanders. My point being, calling it 100% self funded is kind of misleading, nor is it accurate.

It is accurate, because Trump has access to more than enough funds to run his entire campaign, probably for the next decade if he needed to. Bernie Sanders doesn't, which could lead to making certain statements or holding certain positions if it means funding his campaign.

If you have $20m and someone gifts you $1m to you to buy a small house, you aren't in desperate need of that. You're grateful, but that isn't affecting you on the same level as someone who has $20k with $1m gifted to them. People who are in actual need of money begin to feel dependent on donors and are easier to manipulate.  

Posted by Thallen

It is accurate, because Trump has access to more than enough funds to run his entire campaign, probably for the next decade if he needed to.

It's inaccurate because he is taking money. Doesn't matter if it's even 99.9% self funded, it's still not 100%. And doesn't it kinda make him an ass to take money from people when he has enough money for 10 campaigns?

Posted by Thallen

which could lead to making certain statements or holding certain positions if it means funding his campaign.

Except just like Trump he isn't accepting Super PACs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...onaire-donors/  

Posted by Yog

It's inaccurate because he is taking money. Doesn't matter if it's even 99.9% self funded, it's still not 100%. And doesn't it kinda make him an ass to take money from people when he has enough money for 10 campaigns?

How many times have you seen an advertisement or any piece of media begging for donations towards Trump's campaigns? If ever, it isn't often at all.
Literally every other thread here does that for Sanders: https://www.reddit.com/r/sandersforpresident (subreddit was purchased by someone affiliated with his campaign BTW)

I'm not saying that's wrong, I'm saying that it opens him up to a certain type of vulnerability that Trump isn't susceptible to. Trump cannot be bought, because Trump does not need anyone's money.

So, if it pleases you, I'll gladly reword "Trump's campaign is 100% self-funded" as "Trump's campaign is funded by his own cash, but he accepts generous donations on a small button if you manage to find it on his website."
I think it'd actually be arrogant and rude if he didn't accept voluntary donations from people who want to give him their money.  

Posted by Thallen

I'm not saying that's wrong, I'm saying that it opens him up to a certain type of vulnerability that Trump isn't susceptible to. Trump cannot be bought, because Trump does not need anyone's money.

And yet he still needs to outsource to China and **** over our economy.

Posted by Thallen

So, if it pleases you, I'll gladly reword "Trump's campaign is 100% self-funded" as "Trump's campaign is funded by his own cash which he loaned to his campaign in hopes of receiving it back, but he accepts generous donations on his site which has two buttons, one of which is highlighted right at the top."

FTFY

Posted by Thallen

I think it'd actually be arrogant and rude if he didn't accept voluntary donations from people who want to give him their money.

LOL as if Trump gives a **** if anyone thinks he's arrogant.  

Posted by Yog

LOL as if Trump gives a **** if anyone thinks he's arrogant.

As he shouldn't  

Posted by Thallen

As he shouldn't

So why is he accepting donations?  

Posted by Yog

So why is he accepting donations?

Uh, because he has the right to accept anyone's donation that they are offering to him?

Why is Bernie Sanders sending media teams to social media sites like Reddit to constantly beg for phone bankers and donations?
Why is Clinton accepting millions from speeches in front of major corporations?

You say, "And doesn't it kinda make him an ass to take money from people when he has enough money for 10 campaigns?" but how does Sanders look with his team begging for contributions when they're on a clear path for losing the nomination right now? I'm not seeing whatever point you're trying to make...  

Posted by Thallen

Uh, because he has the right to accept anyone's donation that they are offering to him?

I never said he didn't have the right to try and be a prestigious asshole. I'm asking why go through accepting donations when you don't need them? Especially considering the donate button is the only button highlighted on his website.

Posted by Thallen

Why is Bernie Sanders sending media teams to social media sites like Reddit to constantly beg for phone bankers and donations?

Because he doesn't have millions to blow on a campaign like Trump.

Posted by Thallen

I'm not seeing whatever point you're trying to make...

That he doesn't need the money?  

"My candidate is poorer than yours, so it's fair for him to accept donations"
Shame on Trump for being a successful businessman unlike Sanders  

An anti-trump supporter will never convince a trump-supporter.  

is it hillary>trump>sander by # of votes right now?