Posted by TWIZ

Have you heard of a video game addiction? I sure hope so, because that's a mental dependency, for the record.

There is evidence that depression is not only genetic, but an evolutionary phenomena as well, hence why it occurs roughly at the same age for younger individuals, but recurring for some, simply because genes aren't exactly perfect, when considering epigenetics, etc.

The best way to deal with depression isn't to inhale chemicals to somehow "compensate" for the chemical imbalance associated with depression by providing a temporary satisfaction, and the same goes for antidepressants.

If it is in fact evolutionary, therefore genetic, then it's a phenomena that has likely been going for thousands, if not tens of thousands of years, most likely when religion started playing a role in understanding of the universe (probably around 30-40 thousand years ago), also when neanderthals and our own species were in conflict, or the novel theory that we were banging each other resulting in our own dna being scarred with a bit of neanderthal dna.

Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection is typically thought of as physical, but could it perhaps be a mental process as well? It would be an evolutionary advantage to not only understand how the universe works (depression is associated with the need to understand and results in some sort of acceptance), but to also survive, if you will, the state of being depressed.

In conclusion, the best way to "treat" depression would be to receive communicative help, but I'm not a social psychologist or neurologist, and I don't think you are either. Then again, this is a philosophical discussion, after all.

My doctor prescribed me Marijuana for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.

Posted by 5hift

Distorted that is ****ing ******ed.

You want me to diagnose somebody that I have literally never met, seen or heard about and take your word that he is "healthy".

Stop, I just don't care.

Take ten ****ing seconds then and look it up you lazy ****. Goddamn.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

Take ten ****ing seconds then and look it up you lazy ****. Goddamn.

That's not the ****ing point.

I'm not a doctor. I can't physically prove anything you or he says about his health yet you want me to believe that he's perfectly healthy.

I don't just take everyone's word for it, ok?

You could just say that my disease ridden dog is healthy but I'm obviously not going to believe you.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

My doctor prescribed me Marijuana for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.

My Doctor prescribed me anti-depressants for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.  

Posted by 5hift

That's not the ****ing point.

I'm not a doctor. I can't physically prove anything you or he says about his health yet you want me to believe that he's perfectly healthy.

He is perfectly healthy. 77 is very close to the age I'd prefer to make it to, and he has smoked x30+ the weed I'll ever even see.

Posted by Yog

My Doctor prescribed me anti-depressants for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.

That's probably because you're underage.

Not that they'll prescribe it to you unless you ask about it though.  

Posted by Its_Nanner

I always told myself as a kid I would never do drugs, never smoke weed especially. And since high school, a lot of people do it and I did a lot of research and found out it's actually not nearly as harmful or bad for u as your parents may make it seem. And bein high is for me, just like being really happy, laughing a lot, and just feeling good about life.

I still have NEVER taken one hit of a ciggarette or any sort of tobacco product. I know my limits and to not put harmful stuff into my body. (Even tho weed can be laced), but I still consider myself a smart druggie who knows what he's doin.

I've always rejected any drug (although experiencing DMT at least once is beneficial in my case). The effect you're talking about where you feel happy about life, so long as there aren't any other conflicting factors, is hardly debatable, as it's subjective. That's the exact reason I don't want to do it. We're all on the pursuit of happiness, and my desire for understanding has not only led me to believe that in my case it is illogical to do 99% of the drugs that exist, but that it will not help with my passion to begin with. That's why I have never tried it. I will find happiness on my own means.  

Posted by TWIZ

I've always rejected any drug (although experiencing DMT at least once is beneficial in my case). The effect you're talking about where you feel happy about life, so long as there aren't any other conflicting factors, is hardly debatable, as it's subjective. That's the exact reason I don't want to do it. We're all on the pursuit of happiness, and my desire for understanding has not only led me to believe that in my case it is illogical to do 99% of the drugs that exist, but that it will not help with my passion to begin with. That's why I have never tried it. I will find happiness on my own means.

Not in any way encouraging u or others to take drugs. But I have done some research and some drugs that are reletivly safe are:
-Weed
-Shrooms
-LSD
-DMT
-Salvia

These are all my drugs that I will only stick to. I'm sure I'll end up trying Molly or coke once in my life if some hot babe wants me to rail it off her @$$ but that's a whole diff situation and excuse xd  

Posted by Its_Nanner

Not in any way encouraging u or others to take drugs. But I have done some research and some drugs that are reletivly safe are:
-Weed
-Shrooms
-LSD
-DMT
-Salvia

These are all my drugs that I will only stick to. I'm sure I'll end up trying Molly or coke once in my life if some hot babe wants me to rail it off her @$$ but that's a whole diff situation and excuse xd

I agree with some of the **** you say, but honestly dude. Sativa is ****ing horrible for you, DMT, LSD, and partially shrooms are all also terrible...  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

That's probably because you're underage.

No sir.

Mind if I ask what state you live in though?  

Posted by Its_Nanner

Not in any way encouraging u or others to take drugs. But I have done some research and some drugs that are reletivly safe are:
-Weed
-Shrooms
-LSD
-DMT
-Salvia

These are all my drugs that I will only stick to. I'm sure I'll end up trying Molly or coke once in my life if some hot babe wants me to rail it off her @$$ but that's a whole diff situation and excuse xd

My friend from school had the same mindset as you, he was very intelligent as well. One day he got offered coke, did it, all I'll say is coke is definitely a gateway drug. You do it once and you're constantly looking for a high that matches it, he's never been the same.

Posted by Yog

No sir.

Mind if I ask what state you live in though?

Michigan.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

My doctor prescribed me Marijuana for my depression, I'll take a trained professional's word over yours any day.



Take ten ****ing seconds then and look it up you lazy ****. Goddamn.

Oh please. I know I'm not a doctor, and I also know this is a philosophical discussion, but most of the crap nowadays is regulated by the corporate illuminati. The doctor diagnoses the illness, but it isn't like they're able to prescribe any damn drug in the book based on their opinion on what's viable.

I know your counterargument: "that's my point, they prescribe what has been proven to work." Is that why they prescribe a highly addictive methamphetamine to ADHD patients?  

Something that needs to be addressed more directly is the weed itself. Weed is a mental drug, it affects every person differently. And, weed is group into three categories, sativa (makes you more alert and possibly more focused, for example Chemdawg and Haze), indica (relaxes your body, basically a depressant, such as Grandaddy Purp and Northern Lights), and Hybrid (basically in between the other two but can lean to one side more, you're not full of energy but you're not tired either, an example is O.G. Kush). Now within those 3 gruops, all of those strains will have a different effect on you, even if they're in the same groups because the vary in strength. With that being said, and thr fact that its a psychological drug, which affects you mentally, physically, and emotionally, some people can handle a certain strain while others can't. All that needs to be taken into consideration when legalizing it, for example, driving while high usually isn't a good idea, but if you get high off a strain you haven't done before then try to drive, you're taking a major risk. When I used to smoke, I made that mistake one time, and as someone who only smoked sativa and hybrid strains (i don't like indica) and only smoked the best kush (I considered myself a cannibus connoisseur), Haze kicked my butt, made me really disoriented and I still had to drive home, made it back safely tho. But, with all that being said, I haven't even mentioned what someone would use to get high; joints, blunts, pipes, bongs, edibles, vapes all will change how the strain you have affects you. I'm for legalization, but i think having a license for it is a considerable option.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

I agree with some of the **** you say, but honestly dude. Sativa is ****ing horrible for you, DMT, LSD, and partially shrooms are all also terrible...

The ability to handle DMT is pretty much purely psychological.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

I agree with some of the **** you say, but honestly dude. Sativa is ****ing horrible for you, DMT, LSD, and partially shrooms are all also terrible...

I wouldn't mind reading some articles showing proof or valid evidence stating any of the drugs I listed above are bad or can cause health problems . LSD and shrooms specifically(the only 2 psychedelics I've tried) are forsure not bad for your health. I did a hell of a lot of research. DMT and salvia I should do some more research, but I did research on them a bit and I know no bad health affects have been found from DMT.

Posted by TWIZ

The ability to handle DMT is pretty much purely psychological.

You can not "handle" DMT. if u take a solid rip of that stuff, you will be off your ass in a matter of 10 seconds for about 5 minutes.  

Posted by Its_Nanner

I wouldn't mind reading some articles showing proof or valid evidence stating any of the drugs I listed above are bad or can cause health problems . LSD and shrooms specifically(the only 2 psychedelics I've tried) are forsure not bad for your health. I did a hell of a lot of research. DMT and salvia I should do some more research, but I did research on them a bit and I know no bad health affects have been found from DMT.



You can not "handle" DMT. if u take a solid rip of that stuff, you will be off your ass in a matter of 10 seconds for about 5 minutes.

Shrooms I don't think are that bad if you do them ONCE or possibly twice. But Acid on the other hand, if you can't handle it you could end up killing yourself.

But I've never done acid and don't plan on it so I couldn't say too much on this topic. I'm just going by what my friends say.  

Posted by Distorted_P2P

Shrooms I don't think are that bad if you do them ONCE or possibly twice. But Acid on the other hand, if you can't handle it you could end up killing yourself.

But I've never done acid and don't plan on it so I couldn't say too much on this topic. I'm just going by what my friends say.

Your friends are just the typical non-informed people. Taking 1000 hits of I think 100 ug is what is estimated for their to be a CHANCE of a overdose. Still to this day tho, no one has overdosed from LSD and it has no side effects that are found. On the other hand, people can sell you 25i nBome which can be overdosed and causes same effects of LSD. So this is the only thing to be worried about. And there is plenty of ways to prevent yourself from taking nBome compared to real LSD.

Side note: the people that die on psychedelics are just ******s who do stupid **** on them. Just don't be a ****ing ****** and have a trip sitter if ur that ******ed and u will be all good.