Posted by Zetectic

can we see the geographic distribution thing?

We only tracked that for the month that I posted.  

Posted by OG

Theres no way people who aren't in top guilds like Alumni, crz, vis, Apostles, silver lion, blackout and demon will want 2 split GSTS formed into 1.
Everyone who plays this server has keyboardphobia and its literally a dead fad that keeps on resurrecting itself.

Guild loyalty once again is such an easy fix, just make it so only the people registered in the team can gs on that tag and they may only wear that tag until the GST is over.

Posted by OG

That's everyone who knows what the word competitive means.

This is not a troll or argument, but I'm just going to throw some things at you to provoke some thinking.

You(along with every/most PC players) say Mix is more competitive.
You(along with every/most PC players) feel Mix has the better spar guilds.
ok

So why is it that it's only the PC players begging for a MERGER of teams?
Why are PC players so desperate to spar against idevicers("inferior sparers")?

You and every other PC player not in US, Mother, and Alumni's GST winning teams should win a GST first before asking for it to be more competitive.

You guys have bored Thallen to the point where he want to spar sucky idevicers in his desperation to meet a challenge. Maybe Fp4 should do what he said and just give Alumni the GST belt and have the rest of the mixed side fight for 2nd place.

Do what Goten suggested and cut both GST's in half. That would make the GST competitive AF for everybody, but Alumni. Mix teams need to step your game up, you fools going to bore Thallen into retirement.

Ok maybe just a lil troll <3 og. Who wants to bet old man got a boner after reading the alumni part?  

So it's all the android that are taking over and causing lag?

When did the majority of graal's users start becoming more towards android side?

I think it's good for android, since recently google play games allowed it's users to record any game, including graal. I think it's only up to 720p, and the quality was a little weird.

But, since android is apparently the majority. Do the devs have any plans to optimize it more, perhaps adding controller support? Better response for touch controls? Fixing the sign font sizes?

Posted by GOAT

You(along with every/most PC players) say Mix is more competitive.

So why is it that it's only the PC players begging for a MERGER of teams?
Why are PC players so desperate to spar against idevicers("inferior sparers")?

Honestly, I just want to see if it's really based on device, or lag + delay, or just skill.

Letting this tournament happen, at least once, will put all other theories to rest.  

Posted by Aguzo

So it's all the android that are taking over and causing lag?

When did the majority of graal's users start becoming more towards android side?

I think it's good for android, since recently google play games allowed it's users to record any game, including graal. I think it's only up to 720p, and the quality was a little weird.

But, since android is apparently the majority. Do the devs have any plans to optimize it more, perhaps adding controller support? Better response for touch controls? Fixing the sign font sizes?

Android rules  

idev said they can rekt any teams below alumni.
lemme see  

Posted by Aguzo

Honestly, I just want to see if it's really based on device, or lag + delay, or just skill..

Yeah I get you, but I think top idevice teams would have a hard time with even the 3rd place finishers of the mix side and not because of skill. This is coming from someone that tested the difference between PC and devices. Nothing to do with "keyboardphobia" maybe I should start using "itouchphobia"  

Posted by GOAT

Yeah I get you, but I think top idevice teams would have a hard time with even the 3rd place finishers of the mix side and not because of skill. This is coming from someone that tested the difference between PC and devices. Nothing to do with "keyboardphobia" maybe I should start using "itouchphobia"

You have to be really good on one device to then transition to the other and say that the devices have a clear difference.

iDevs have advantages, just like PC does. It's how the player exploits those advantages, that will lead them to the win.

iDevs: Baiting (changing directions really fast, it's easy to make your opponent swing and miss, then push them) is easier.

Less lag, since your ms is lower due to optimization.

PC: strafing? I don't even use that at all anymore. Mostly cause, my keyboard sucks.

That's pretty much it... if I were to practice a lot on idev, then I would be better on that compared to PC, plus a few less ms wouldn't hurt as well.  

Posted by Aguzo

You have to be really good on one device to then transition to the other and say that the devices have a clear difference.

iDevs have advantages, just like PC does. It's how the player exploits those advantages, that will lead them to the win.

iDevs: Baiting (changing directions really fast, it's easy to make your opponent swing and miss, then push them) is easier.

Less lag, since your ms is lower due to optimization.

PC: strafing? I don't even use that at all anymore. Mostly cause, my keyboard sucks.

That's pretty much it... if I were to practice a lot on idev, then I would be better on that compared to PC, plus a few less ms wouldn't hurt as well.

My test were pretty basic. I spared certain people with my device and then I spared them with my PC. There were guys I could beat on my PC fairly easy while I struggled or barely beat them with my idevice. Did the same with pk'ng. I would pk with both back to back to see the difference. The only place where my idevice was better was in huge mobs.  

Posted by GOAT

The only place where my idevice was better was in huge mobs.

How good is your pc?

You probably lagged a little on pc, which could have helped you beat players that you couldn't do on idev.  

Or he wasn't used to it. The only real way to test it is to spend the exact same amount of time on each which is impossible to do with someone who played the game before, and painstaking otherwise even if someone grabbed their friend as a test subject.  

Posted by Aguzo

How good is your pc?

You probably lagged a little on pc, which could have helped you beat players that you couldn't do on idev.

Basic HP. It could have been a factor. These test were done back in the day by the way, so I don't think it played a major factor.

Posted by Fulgore

Or he wasn't used to it. The only real way to test it is to spend the exact same amount of time on each which is impossible to do with someone who played the game before, and painstaking otherwise even if someone grabbed their friend as a test subject.

That's my point. I was idevice and still had an easier time with my PC. I used a gamepad so there was no need to get used to the movement. I'm not saying it to convince people, but explaining why I see things the way I see them.  

Posted by GOAT

Basic HP. It could have been a factor. These test were done back in the day by the way, so I don't think it played a major factor.

That's my point. I was idevice and still had an easier time with my PC. I used a gamepad so there was no need to get used to the movement. I'm not saying it to convince people, but explaining why I see things the way I see them.

A very low end pc would still impact performance. My old old laptop would lag the first time I tried to play graal on pc.

Gamepad will obviously be easier to use than touch controls... if you tried using a keyboard it would be different until you get used to it. Same thing goes with idev, idk if you are decent on idev as a sparrer. If you are just decent, then yeah switching to a controller would up your game.  

does being good at individual sparring make you good at guild sparring?  

Posted by fp4

does being good at individual sparring make you good at guild sparring?

There's no "I" in guild.  

Posted by fp4

does being good at individual sparring make you good at guild sparring?

A lot of times there's correlation between it, so maybe causation but there are different things you have to do in guild spar. I think what tends to be the case is that most people who are good at 1v1 are smart enough to know the nuances of guild spar and adjust.