Can we get the GS system sorted it's been brought up quite a few times and been ignored... This update was cool but since this update they messed up guildsparring.  

Posted by Kuz

Can we get the GS system sorted it's been brought up quite a few times and been ignored... This update was cool but since this update they messed up guildsparring.

I'm sure they're working on it, y'all just need to chill.  

Posted by Thallen

what happened years ago isn't relevant today, pretty simple

Thats like saying How a country was built up to be what it is now means nothing to now, may aswell scrap everyone's account then going by that logic.  

Posted by G Fatal

Thats like saying How a country was built up to be what it is now means nothing to now

that's a bad analogy, but none of these first-to PK or tower achievements "built" the server by any means
take your nostalgia goggles off, you don't even play Graal anymore so you'd have no idea what's going on currently

the rate at which Graal changes is so frequent that the data from an all-time leaderboard is skewed
examples: 2011-2013 was probably the best time to get fast spar wins by my experience, baddy killing was much easier a long time ago, PKing is much easier right now due to the massive playercount, there's a different tower meta than there was many years ago, etc.

there's no reason to show stale data, throw that in some little house in the same way spar and GST records are  

Posted by Thallen

If someone can get high on any of these leaderboards on 2 accounts then everyone else must really suck

or that person has way too much time  

Posted by Mizochi

Why would someone do that for their kik lol

mans gotta get some somehow  

Not sure if this is brought up cuz don't feel like going thru 20 pages. But is there seriously not a total pk and bl leaderboard and a total guild hours leaderboard?????????  

Posted by Its_Nanner

Not sure if this is brought up cuz don't feel like going thru 20 pages. But is there seriously not a total pk and bl leaderboard and a total guild hours leaderboard?????????

Prettymuch.
IK.. can tell the sparring community rules over classic.  

The day of Twitchers of Graal will get kills and get their name out for kids  

Posted by G Fatal

Prettymuch.
IK.. can tell the sparring community rules over classic.

You're acting as if the sparring community wanted all time boards to be removed.  

Posted by Thallen

that's a bad analogy, but none of these first-to PK or tower achievements "built" the server by any means
take your nostalgia goggles off, you don't even play Graal anymore so you'd have no idea what's going on currently

the rate at which Graal changes is so frequent that the data from an all-time leaderboard is skewed
examples: 2011-2013 was probably the best time to get fast spar wins by my experience, baddy killing was much easier a long time ago, PKing is much easier right now due to the massive playercount, there's a different tower meta than there was many years ago, etc.

there's no reason to show stale data, throw that in some little house in the same way spar and GST records are

First to reach X milestone is not the same as all-time lists. In the all-time lists players can always reach #1 (ask anyu) while on the first to reach list you only have one chance to reach #1.


Also, those first to pk or tower achievements built this server, along with everyone actively playing now. One is not more important than the other, but we all built the server together and we will continue to build it. Staff, tower, spar, pk, code shop, scammers, cyber daters, role players, and whatever else is out there helped built it.

Posted by G Fatal

Prettymuch.
IK.. can tell the sparring community rules over classic.

I'm a give you a small history on classics leader boards. Originally the leader boards consisted of a post by the registration desk that had the names of the first to 10k spar wins. They also had spar hats. Me being the original true pkr felt that was a disrespect to the pk'ng community which basically consisted of like 20 of us. With that there it was like saying spar was more important. I suggested a pk leader board, not because I pk'd for stats, but because I felt disrespected. We ended up getting something way better than the spar community. Even though I can't prove it I can honestly say I was one of the first asking for a spar leader board like ours because I felt they should have something similar. They didn't get one like ours in which people would be happy, but they got 2 crappy ones that everyone complained about. Now I think they finally came up with a leader board that is pretty fair throughout.

Tl;Dr: I think they finally have a fair leader board system (-) the bug collection. Wouldn't surprise me if people start crying over what filter should determine the winners.

Posted by Striken

You're acting as if the sparring community wanted all time boards to be removed.

Agreed.  

Posted by GOAT

First to reach X milestone is not the same as all-time lists. In the all-time lists players can always reach #1 (ask anyu) while on the first to reach list you only have one chance to reach #1.

You're proving my point though:

Posted by Thallen

the rate at which Graal changes is so frequent that the data from an all-time leaderboard is skewed
examples: 2011-2013 was probably the best time to get fast spar wins by my experience, baddy killing was much easier a long time ago, PKing is much easier right now due to the massive playercount, there's a different tower meta than there was many years ago, etc.

You used the Anyu example, well Anyu getting her all-time kills is completely different from when Xenthic got his. He got his when less people played and when mobs were less popular, making it a lot more difficult. Comparing 2 completely different frames of time like that with some leaderboard is unfair to both of them. Even a year is probably too much, I'm glad it's seasonal at the highest. I personally don't care if they show all-time statistics, but I just think it's skewed.

Posted by GOAT

They didn't get one like ours in which people would be happy, but they got 2 crappy ones that everyone complained about. Now I think they finally came up with a leader board that is pretty fair throughout.

What do you mean? This is the exact same leaderboard as the one we had just a week ago. It's just that they finally added the whole of the suggestion rather then parts of it.  

Dunno if this was already suggested, but on the towers leaderboard, it'd be nice to see number of towers taken; which can be further filtered by location.  

Also on tower one maybe location? depending on the ldrs flag? be nice to see who's best ldr from a country  

Okay first of all this has definitely made sparring more competitive now and as much as I dislike the idea of pc and idev together it makes sense.

As for pk.. well the long term motivation for most pkers was the all time top 100. This new leaderboard doesn't encourage anything different except no life mob boosting.
Yesterday about 8-9 people got 3k plus pks and one guy got 7k (most of which was done in about 2 hours). How does this encourage more competition? People could come on 2 days late after season starts and see the season leaderboards are topped by someone with 15k after 2 days...Yeah like that's gonna motivate someone to pk more than a top 100 which u can work your way up to and chase. Even if I was on 6 hours a day and no life pkd I doubt I'd ever get top 3, because top 3 now belongs to the mob boosters.
An award every 3 months for the most active players does not compare to The achievement of getting into the top 100 and working your way up.
At least an all time pk leader board motivated determined pkers who have been pking for a long ass time (for nothing now) . This new leader board just encourages people with nothing to do for 3 months to get a ridiculous amount of pks and claim an award at the end of it when all they did was watch tv while spamming the sword button on their screen.
Bring back the old system for pks , or find a way to add an all time and don't say that the sh**ty little book with the top 10 that will never get updated makes up for it.

Doubt my opinion really matters but this is the worst update there has been. My favourite part about the game has gone. Please bring back the old pk leaderboards. Ik for a fact most of the other top 100 and the real tower pkers agree with me