Posted by James205

I also don't get why people keep complaining. I know plenty of iDev who are really good and beat tons of PC players. If they can do it then anyone should be able to if they tried hard enough.

Not everyone is willing to move to another country just to spar one hour. Not everyone is willing to abuse their satellite connection to compete.

But I am interested to know who are these idevicers and which PC players are they beating. Can you name 5?

Posted by James205

When I came back in Sept (after 7 years) it confused the hell out of me that there were 2 different GST tournaments... it doesn't make sense to me still to this day. Has 1 GST tournament and things also become way more competitive.

PC players already feel they have the most competitive GST why are they so desperate to spar the idevicers? Us idevicers prefer our on kind, we racists

http://www.graalians.com/forums/poll...lts&pollid=881

Posted by Thallen

Alumni isn't even the 5 best PCs... and I'd immediately ask at least one iDevice player to be with us if that ever did happen, so invalid argument

Teams consist of 7 players X_X. But I know, that's why the queen suggested a merger, easy belt for her. Sorry Sarah_ <3

Posted by Thallen

Ya, these top PC sparrers truly show no skill, we press a macro on our keyboard and the **** just does everything for us

Long stick sword hack brah

That's not the point. iDevicers wanted to test themselves against the legendary PC sparrers, so they "evened" the playing field and now Aguzo is legendary. If he could do that along with others(fulgy) then PC players could do the same thing if they wanted to test themselves. You don't hear idevicers asking for a merger, so why force them.



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Posted by Thallen

You're the one complaining and making excuses, I'm the one that embraces it being harder to win
I'd expect bad sparrers to not want it to happen, but the GST isn't for bad sparrers

You embrace making it hard for the idevice sparrers, but not harder for you. You want to embrace making it harder lets make it idevice only.

I'm not complaining. Pointing out how I see things. If you want I can even come pretty close as to guess what's the real reason you want a merger.  

Posted by GOAT

Teams consist of 7 players X_X.

I literally just made that up, the quoted post from fp4 was a joke, no staff ever said that and I highly doubt that'd be the case if they ever did combine both GSTs
I only mentioned there being one GST because there are no longer split leaderboards or device-specific rooms, so it seems like a pretty obvious progression

Posted by GOAT

I'm not complaining. Pointing out how I see things. If you want I can even come pretty close as to guess what's the real reason you want a merger.

Please entertain me with how a single, harder GST benefits me in absolutely any way imaginable
The current way is what benefits me... Just like the old leaderboard benefited me, yet I still suggested the change

For all you know, I could have posted that simply because I know people will disagree with anything I say and I want there to be 2 GSTs for as long as possible since Alumni is highly favored in both of them  

Posted by Thallen

I literally just made that up, the quoted post from fp4 was a joke, no staff ever said that and I highly doubt that'd be the case if they ever did combine both GSTs
I only mentioned there being one GST because there are no longer split leaderboards or device-specific rooms, so it seems like a pretty obvious progression

What does this have to do with what we are discussing? You said you would immediatley ask one idevice player, so I pointed out 7 players. 5 core pc's which allow for 2 idevicers to get an ez belt. Meaning why I said Sarah_(the queen) suggested it. I don't know what your respond is directed at.

Posted by Thallen

For all you know, I could have posted that simply because I know people will disagree with anything I say and I want there to be 2 GSTs for as long as possible since Alumni is highly favored in both of them

We all know GOAT doesn't need bait. Oh nvm you playing reverse psychology on Fp4.  

Oh, I thought you were referring to:


(That was just a joke to anyone skimming the page)
Anyway, this thread is about the new leaderboards and not the GST  

Posted by Thallen

Please entertain me with how a single, harder GST benefits me in absolutely any way imaginable
The current way is what benefits me... Just like the old leader board benefited me, yet I still suggested the change

The question is not whether which one benefits you the most, but which one benefits your enemy the least. The old leader board was abused(according to you) by a person you constantly bashed, so the suggestion would take away that persons claim to fame as the top sparer. He would not be able to use the I'm #1 on the leader board, so I'm the best sparer line.

One GST will not make it harder for you, it will make it harder for idevice players. No idevice team is winning a GST against PC teams unless NS happens again. Whoever uses idevice GST to claim top sparer honors will no longer have that since PC teams will be the dominant ones. It's easy to predict players behavior when they are obsessed with the game. When the game means that much to them they will go to any lengths for their obsession.

How far am I? Don't lie brotha, pretty good hey  

if one gst happens i feel like sarahs gonna stick with her idev team and try to give alumni a hard time. she likes to challenge people, she doesn't likes free ez wins.  

Posted by GOAT

How far am I?

You're about 2 religious quotes and a semicolon away from Conquest
Never go full Conquest  

Posted by Zetectic

if one gst happens i feel like sarahs gonna stick with her idev team and try to give alumni a hard time. she likes to challenge people, she doesn't likes free ez wins.

Isn't she in Alumni?

Posted by Thallen

You're about 2 religious quotes and a semicolon away from Conquest
Never go full Conquest

lol told you I was good.
Funny you say that because I catch myself agreeing with what he says a lot of the time.  

Posted by GOAT

Isn't she in Alumni?

she is. but she isn't alumni mixed.
i could be wrong, idk i am not her/thallen, but im just assuming.
and if One gst happens alumni can't have 2 teams. so i think sarahs team/alumni idev naturally enter as another name?  

Posted by GOAT

Not everyone is willing to move to another country just to spar one hour. Not everyone is willing to abuse their satellite connection to compete.

But I am interested to know who are these idevicers and which PC players are they beating. Can you name 5?

PC players already feel they have the most competitive GST why are they so desperate to spar the idevicers? Us idevicers prefer our on kind, we racists

http://www.graalians.com/forums/poll...lts&pollid=881

I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about. Having just 1 GST would force everyone to get better and would be 100x more competitive. I could tell you the disadvantages I had in the past but I always overcame them but I don't have the energy to even respond to whatever you just ranted about.

Anyway- still love the new scoreboard, great job to the people who worked on it.  

I'm not the one who suggested it lol
Plus how can that be an easy win if all the teams will be against each other?  

Posted by Rufus

It hasn't changed as far as I know.

You are so good at giving out political statements.  

Posted by TeK

This is a long shot but, could a Guild Killing board be added? Basically your kills that you get on a tag will count only for that tag. If you swifch tags, the kills you got on the first tag stay with it, and any kills you get on the second tag only count toward that tag. Maybe the top 3 PKers in the top 3 guilds could earn a prize or something? Even without prizes it'd sill be cool, plus it gives guilds a much needed real extra activity.

Said exactly same thing awhile back.

Anyways @Rufus or any other highup/scripter are we going to have a place on map to view how the overall guildfort leaderboard ended up once this new ldrbds got implemented.. Seems really bad to take away the whole hostory of the server just because you guys wasn't into the fort system as much as you were for sparring, I like the new system idea but to cut off its history to just top12 to 1k(thats not even 100%correct) is sad..thats why there should have been log of top50 once this new system happened.  

Posted by MBK

You are so good at giving out political statements.

What is political about saying that something hasn't changed as far as I know?

Posted by G Fatal

Said exactly same thing awhile back.

Anyways @Rufus or any other highup/scripter are we going to have a place on map to view how the overall guildfort leaderboard ended up once this new ldrbds got implemented.. Seems really bad to take away the whole hostory of the server just because you guys wasn't into the fort system as much as you were for sparring, I like the new system idea but to cut off its history to just top12 to 1k(thats not even 100%correct) is sad..thats why there should have been log of top50 once this new system happened.

I don't know what you mean by this, but it has already been said that the old data will be displayed somewhere.  

Posted by Rufus

but it has already been said that the old data will be displayed somewhere.

Will it be displayed as a leaderboard that will continue to update and change, or a "first to #" type thing?