Need Help Relating to a Ban

PigParty · 10-03-2015

So I know I'm not supposed to do this on the forums, but the way Classic's system is, they really don't leave you any choice. I'd prefer a classic admin who actually will take this seriously please read this and respond to me. Here's the story:
I was at the grotto, I stole gralats from some guy, I was reported, and an admin warned me for Game Disruption. I went back to the grotto and was astonished you could be banned for "stealing" gralats in a public farm, so anyways I only stole from him because he steals from me (not that it matters why) and so I figured I could farm then if there's an admin there that won't let you steal, so I did. And that guy got on his mount and started trying to steal my gralats. I reported him then, figuring the same would happen to him. I ended up getting banned for "Hacking or Cheating" for over 2.1k hours. I sent a ticket to toonslab, but Classic doesn't require evidence for a ban, so I guess they treat their tickets like a joke, anyways, my appeal was denied because it wasn't properly looked into to begin with. I find it absurd I was banned for Hacking because I stole gralats, and then I even stopped and started farming myself, he stole, and I got banned. My guess is the staff member thought those were his bombs while we were both trying to get the gralats. Anyways, I don't see why taking gralats in a public farm deems a ban, let alone with the reason for hacking. I did not say one word to the person or anyone, so inappropriate language/harassment wasn't a part of the situation. I want to show my credibility that I'm not one of those players that twists the story for when they in actuality did something, and I get this situation is so absurd-sounding that that might be most people's impression. I used to be a ZP/ZP Captain on iZone and a PR on iEra, so that I know the rules & the system. That doesn't mean I didn't hack (even though I didn't) but that shows I do know about this stuff. Anyways, I'm just looking for some help from someone who will take this seriously, since it didn't happen on toonslab.

Albie · 10-03-2015

Almost the same thing happened to me, I was in my guild house and called my friend an asswipe for beating me and got a 2.1k hour for hacking.
If only there was evidence for bans lol

Nothings going to change, sadly most admins are over-sensitive and or don't actually know what the correct punishment is for an action.

Distorted_P2P · 10-03-2015

If this really happened then that's ****ing hilarious

PigParty · 10-03-2015

Posted by Distorted_P2P

If this really happened then that's ****ing hilarious

I actually laughed at first of the absurdity of it. And yea, Classic doesn't require evidence, which is extremely unprofessional and a major flaw in the system. Now though, I actually want someone in the classic staff to take this seriously.

And the sad part is I know my ban wouldn't be overturned, due to me having a history. But my last history was from years ago. I had been banned for hacking before for doing a glitch (like the guild house glitch or something) and once for not being able to die because I was touching a sign.... I know classic just looks at your history when deciding to appeal the bans, and the fact that I haven't had any ban history in years should count towards my appeal.

SouthernZombie* · 10-03-2015

Game Disruption

Kosiris · 10-03-2015

hey, I can relate to your entire post and I'd hate to say this but the only way of getting unbanned right now is through Toonslab.. sorry
I don't know of any GPA that actively browses Graalians nowadays

MBK · 10-03-2015

I guess now if a noob tells me to "stop pking tower or get reported" i'll actually need to pay heed to what it says.

Distorted_P2P · 10-03-2015

Posted by PigParty

I actually laughed at first of the absurdity of it. And yea, Classic doesn't require evidence, which is extremely unprofessional and a major flaw in the system. Now though, I actually want someone in the classic staff to take this seriously.

And the sad part is I know my ban wouldn't be overturned, due to me having a history. But my last history was from years ago. I had been banned for hacking before for doing a glitch (like the guild house glitch or something) and once for not being able to die because I was touching a sign.... I know classic just looks at your history when deciding to appeal the bans, and the fact that I haven't had any ban history in years should count towards my appeal.

If it makes you feel any better I've been banned numerous times for glitching/hacking; the two person mount glitch, Guild House jumping, Cheat Engine, etc, but the one time I was wrongfully banned, I submitted a ticket to Toonslab, and within no time it was overturned. I'm sure yours will be too.

If it isn't just talk to Pharaoh, he's a cool guy, and he's pretty understanding. He helped me out with my ban, and I'm sure if you explain the situation to him he won't turn a blind eye.

PigParty · 10-03-2015

Posted by Distorted_P2P

If it makes you feel any better I've been banned numerous times for glitching/hacking; the two person mount glitch, Guild House jumping, Cheat Engine, etc, but the one time I was wrongfully banned, I submitted a ticket to Toonslab, and within no time it was overturned. I'm sure yours will be too.

If it isn't just talk to Pharaoh, he's a cool guy, and he's pretty understanding. He helped me out with my ban, and I'm sure if you explain the situation to him he won't turn a blind eye.

Thank you. My problem is I didn't know any classic staff so I couldn't even try talking to anyone, which is why I came here. I sent a ticket already but my appeal was denied. Although now I don't know how to reach Pharaoh since I'm banned in-game

Distorted_P2P · 10-03-2015

Posted by PigParty

Thank you. My problem is I didn't know any classic staff so I couldn't even try talking to anyone, which is why I came here. I sent a ticket already but my appeal was denied. Although now I don't know how to reach Pharaoh since I'm banned in-game

I'll talk to him and direct him to this thread

Albie · 10-03-2015

Legend has it that if you rep every post dusty has made he'll unban you

Wolfie · 10-03-2015

Classic doesn't use the evidence system anymore? So now those 12 years old admins can wrongfully ban players?

PigParty · 10-03-2015

Posted by Distorted_P2P

I'll talk to him and direct him to this thread

thank you very much!

Nem · 10-03-2015

Posted by Wolfie

Classic doesn't use the evidence system anymore? So now those 12 years old admins can wrongfully ban players?

yep

Mio · 10-03-2015

I say fire all the current admins, except for a few admins whom are doing a great job.

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PigParty PigParty🐷 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: PigPen Posts: 2,913	Need Help Relating to a Ban So I know I'm not supposed to do this on the forums, but the way Classic's system is, they really don't leave you any choice. I'd prefer a classic admin who actually will take this seriously please read this and respond to me. Here's the story: I was at the grotto, I stole gralats from some guy, I was reported, and an admin warned me for Game Disruption. I went back to the grotto and was astonished you could be banned for "stealing" gralats in a public farm, so anyways I only stole from him because he steals from me (not that it matters why) and so I figured I could farm then if there's an admin there that won't let you steal, so I did. And that guy got on his mount and started trying to steal my gralats. I reported him then, figuring the same would happen to him. I ended up getting banned for "Hacking or Cheating" for over 2.1k hours. I sent a ticket to toonslab, but Classic doesn't require evidence for a ban, so I guess they treat their tickets like a joke, anyways, my appeal was denied because it wasn't properly looked into to begin with. I find it absurd I was banned for Hacking because I stole gralats, and then I even stopped and started farming myself, he stole, and I got banned. My guess is the staff member thought those were his bombs while we were both trying to get the gralats. Anyways, I don't see why taking gralats in a public farm deems a ban, let alone with the reason for hacking. I did not say one word to the person or anyone, so inappropriate language/harassment wasn't a part of the situation. I want to show my credibility that I'm not one of those players that twists the story for when they in actuality did something, and I get this situation is so absurd-sounding that that might be most people's impression. I used to be a ZP/ZP Captain on iZone and a PR on iEra, so that I know the rules & the system. That doesn't mean I didn't hack (even though I didn't) but that shows I do know about this stuff. Anyways, I'm just looking for some help from someone who will take this seriously, since it didn't happen on toonslab.

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Albie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Battle Arena Posts: 1,550	Almost the same thing happened to me, I was in my guild house and called my friend an asswipe for beating me and got a 2.1k hour for hacking. If only there was evidence for bans lol Nothings going to change, sadly most admins are over-sensitive and or don't actually know what the correct punishment is for an action.

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Distorted_P2P Banned Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,555	If this really happened then that's ****ing hilarious

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SouthernZombie* 0.0 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Destiny Posts: 1,235	Game Disruption

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Kosiris 3bad Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 505	hey, I can relate to your entire post and I'd hate to say this but the only way of getting unbanned right now is through Toonslab.. sorry I don't know of any GPA that actively browses Graalians nowadays Last edited by Kosiris; 10-03-2015 at 08:10 PM. Reason: forgot Toonslab was a proper noun!

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MBK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,379	I guess now if a noob tells me to "stop pking tower or get reported" i'll actually need to pay heed to what it says.

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Wolfie Terra Branford Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Next to you Posts: 3,284	Classic doesn't use the evidence system anymore? So now those 12 years old admins can wrongfully ban players?

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Mio hi Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 736	I say fire all the current admins, except for a few admins whom are doing a great job.