Posted by contego

Let's not take away from VIS's win. It's over and everyone did a good job, banned players or not, gg.

Was fun.

The better team should always win delay or not. Don't try to trade hit for hit with a someone who delays and you're both .5. It's simple really and it's always been the case with delay. Nothing new. GG all teams and congratulations to VIS and Deity on a clean win.

Tego pretty much summed it up.

@dragonfly

Spoiler

Singles spar has nothing to do with Guild spar... I've guild sparred way more than I've done 1vs'

Let's see I got 5k wins probably in 2012
10k in 2014
18k, maybe get 20k in this year, too lazy to spar tho.

I'm probably 10x better in gs than I am in 1v1, because I am more of a team player than going solo and doing my own thing. I have 3 wins with alumni, 2 3rd place wins (one with Blackout, and one with War).

I got carried? Sure, some matches I did bad, some matches I did great. Either way, everyone supported each other. In gs it's not about who landed the most hits, it's how those hits were achieved. I'm pretty much the assist player, since I force enemies into my teammates' swords.

Not even gonna argue with someone who is all talk and no action.

Winners don't talk trash, they perform.

 

Posted by GotenGraal

ViS never won, so we aren't taking away anything from them @Contego. Rebellious is the one who had their win taken. Not sure how you and others find it impossible for an admin to be wrong.

Grats to reb for a winning back to back Gsts!

I hope Admins do take this seriously and research further. If it is truly a "Rebellious win" then preventive measures should be taken for future GST's. For example, a scripted scoreboard for everyone in the room to see. Problem solve, don't dwell on the issue.

Goten, I agree I would definitely be "annoyed" if this were my team and it legitimately happened to us. However having said that, Admin's said "tie" (no?) not a VIS win. So was an opportunity to win given to both equally? Now if I'm understanding what happened and this was my team then I'd humbly accept my defeat with a pinch of saltiness.

I am curious to know if any VIS members had the chance to see "Win" "Lose" or "Tie" though. I sometimes end up missing what it says myself. But to be clear, if an Admin ever said "Tie" and we got the message "Lose" I would at least let the Admin know I saw "Lose".  

i don't care how confident you are in your guildsparring ability thallen and i are both still way better than you in that field as well lol

lmk when you're in a "gst dream team" post  

Posted by Comyt

i don't care how confident you are in your guildsparring ability thallen and i are both still way better than you in that field as well lol

lmk when you're in a "gst dream team" post

Your so mean  

Posted by contego

I hope Admins do take this seriously and research further. If it is truly a "Rebellious win" then preventive measures should be taken for future GST's. For example, a scripted scoreboard for everyone in the room to see. Problem solve, don't dwell on the issue.

Goten, I agree I would definitely be "annoyed" if this were my team and it legitimately happened to us. However having said that, Admin's said "tie" (no?) not a VIS win. So was an opportunity to win given to both equally? Now if I'm understanding what happened and this was my team then I'd humbly accept my defeat with a pinch of saltiness.

I am curious to know if any VIS members had the chance to see "Win" "Lose" or "Tie" though. I sometimes end up missing what it says myself. But to be clear, if an Admin ever said "Tie" and we got the message "Lose" I would at least let the Admin know I saw "Lose".

Rebellious saw win, so it's safe to say ViS saw the message saying they lost. Domi even mentioned in an earlier post that he " thought it tied", basically saying his screen showed a loss. I'm sure Lertcon can confirm this anyway.  

Rebellious 2nd guild to win back2back idev gst  

Posted by MikvaGraal

Your so mean

That guy is a little troll... you on the other hand... (didn't want to post, but you keep instigating)

Spoiler

Apparently he can streak against 15 of the following: Brett, Thallen, Jack, Primetime, Winter, Dante, Majin, Sarah, Abood, Kevin, David, Zid, Sean, Contego, Abel, PK, Male, Demrow, Aserus, Yui, Precise, Exalt, Noss, Smoke, Clops, Mk, Quiondre, Sol, T3ck, Aarian, Rufus, Kevin91, Shiden on the regular...

 

Posted by Aguzo

That guy is a little troll... you on the other hand...

Spoiler

Apparently he can streak against 15 of the following: Brett, Thallen, Jack, Primetime, Winter, Dante, Majin, Sarah, Abood, Kevin, David, Zid, Sean, Contego, Abel, PK, Male, Demrow, Aserus, Yui, Precise, Exalt, Noss, Smoke, Clops, Mk, Quiondre, Sol, T3ck, Aarian, Rufus, Kevin91, Shiden on the regular...

What the hell does this have to do with anything

Posted by MikvaGraal

What the hell does this have to do with amything

Bro your not even good, ever since Thallen gave you that ego you think your the **** at spar and guild spar.
last time we sparred I went 6-1 on you in mixed room, every lost you would :asleep:. There is 15 people in that list I regularly beat, when I sparred.  

Posted by Aguzo

That guy is a little troll... you on the other hand... (didn't want to post, but you keep instigating)

Spoiler

Apparently he can streak against 15 of the following: Brett, Thallen, Jack, Primetime, Winter, Dante, Majin, Sarah, Abood, Kevin, David, Zid, Sean, Contego, Abel, PK, Male, Demrow, Aserus, Yui, Precise, Exalt, Noss, Smoke, Clops, Mk, Quiondre, Sol, T3ck, Aarian, Rufus, Kevin91, Shiden on the regular...

What the hell does this have to do with GST lol  

Clearly this should have been a Rebellious win if they did in fact receive a message saying that they won the spar. This is how it always went down in previous GSTs and at the Battle Arena so I don't see how it's fair that they would do it different this time around. If the admins want to make it a tie when both players die, then they should change the scripting or at least notify us ahead of the tournament.  

People like aguzo make me feel ashamed for sparring on pc  

Mikva getting on once per 2 months just to troll doesn't count as being a sparrer or knowing anything about what's going on. Please stop and make yourself look better.

@Dante

Yeah I'd agree I guess. I don't know the details of what happened, haven't paid tons of attention, but this makes sense.  

Posted by DanteGraal

If the admins want to make it a tie when both players die, then they should change the scripting or at least notify us ahead of the tournament.

Can they do that though? Maybe by receiving the message a few seconds, after the server has processed that all players died.

server thinking process?
... no players left with 0.5/all players left with 0hp
... result: tie

I would say rebellious won if I could see when domi hit, but I can't see his sword. If domi swung after, then yeah rebel won. But alas, graalbusters needs more proof.  

Posted by DanteGraal

Clearly this should have been a Rebellious win if they did in fact receive a message saying that they won the spar. This is how it always went down in previous GSTs and at the Battle Arena so I don't see how it's fair that they would do it different this time around. If the admins want to make it a tie when both players die, then they should change the scripting or at least notify us ahead of the tournament.

With my little eyes I spy a tie.

Personally idc what pops up with "win", "lose", or "tie". Admins are basically the refs. But as I said I would still tell the Admin I saw it say "lose" and prob just say "gg" if I were on VIS.

But if there were no refs then I'd agree Rebellious "win". And if the Admins want to say tie and I already told them I saw Lose, then I would definitely think it was fair to spar again.

PC Client, UN for example, two people sparring and both die everyone knows its a tie because they are both kicked from spar. But the score/streak tracker will still announce the winner. But everyone knows its obviously a tie.

Also on PC Client, back in the day before any indication of a win or loss from any script was around, a 3rd party or Host of the tourney would decide. Simple, who's left standing.

I still view it overall as a VIS win based on the video I watched because they killed each other and VIS closed it out in other matches.  

Next time, just warp me in to finals. ill just record lag free and have a fair view.

Posted by Aguzo

Can they do that though? Maybe by receiving the message a few seconds, after the server has processed that all players died.

server thinking process?
... no players left with 0.5/all players left with 0hp
... result: tie

what if a player die, then revive in split second and kills u and then server calls it a tie. lololol

dude but for real, just about a month ago *i posted in the bug section* i beat someone in spar and i had 1.5hp left, he revived and killed me then the system declared him as a winner. lmfao i was the first one ever to experience that.