Posted by contego

@antago in 2001 servers were not sold. Stefan allowed people to make servers but wouldn't put it on the start up menu without approval of testers/himself.

I released the server Shaded Legend with Tyriel (he used a different account name before SL was released) on 03/2001 on the start up menu and did not ever have to pay.

I really doubt you opened a server on 03/2001 considering we didn't launch Graal2k1 until mid February 2001, and to my knowledge there were certainly not other servers especially not two weeks after we released this version. Please, if you're going to give specific dates to everything—make sure you got your facts straight.

You had to own a gold account to release a server at the time as well, which was pretty much the only perk to owning a gold account if I recall correctly, and if I especially recall correctly, new servers were not allowed nor did they start start popping up until later 2001 (or early 2002) when the feature was made available. These details I am hazy on as I officially quit my position as Game Master in mid March or April.

Posted by contego

Later in June of 2001 I became a "global" but official title was Accounts Administrator and then by late summer of '01 to '03 I was Game Master "with" unixmad but for NA (North America). Which didn't make sense because unixmad basically just spoke to me on ICQ to get updated on what was going on once a month and did not actually do any labor or assist at all. A couple times Stefan, unix, and me had to speak on the phone but at that time it was very expensive so we limited our phone conversations.

I'll assume this may be true. Your other dates on things are very off, however.  

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...=Shaded+Legend

That is when James205 was manager after I left 5 months later. I am not here to prove anything to you antago so maybe you should do some research before you try to call people out instead of looking like.. what's a nice way of saying ass?

Also the problem with most staff is they always called it a "position of power" whereas my mindset has always been a "position of responsibility". Certainly I had full FTP access and one of the last Level 5 RC's. (Same access as Stefan and unix). I had to sign a contract.  

Posted by contego

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...=Shaded+Legend

That is when James205 was manager after I left 5 months later. I am not here to prove anything to you antago so maybe you should do some research before you try to call people out instead of looking like.. what's a nice way of saying ass?

Also the problem with most staff is they always called it a "position of power" whereas my mindset has always been a "position of responsibility". Certainly I had full FTP access and one of the last Level 5 RC's. (Same access as Stefan and unix). I had to sign a contract.

Dude, I don't believe your claims and none of your facts match up. You keep spewing out random SPECIFIC DATES and SPECIFIC TIMES, name dropping, over exaggerating common references to places in the game (and FYI all these levels are available in online archives), and claiming positions of power, guilds, and servers that do not match up with your time. Sending a link to some random thread and then claiming an imaginary "5 months" period in reference to it and calling me an ass doesn't hold up. It wouldn't hold up in court, it doesn't hold up in archives, and it doesn't hold up to anyone with 2 ounces of sensibility—and frankly, your name is supsiciously similar to mine. You probably joined Graal in 2001, and you earned some position of power in the summer or later; that is my assumption. Whether or not my assumptions are accurate, that is not the point; the point is that you are botching history to suit your ego.

You did not join the game in 1998, and you did not own your own playerworld server 1 month after we launched Graal2001. We were all extremely swamped and busy with handling things, and quite frankly while you claim it is "I" who am arguing with you, it is in fact you who are arguing with me considering I was friends with every admin and worked incredibly hard 8+ hours a day for 2 whole years, and none of these facts you are claiming about my friends, about yourself, or about this beloved game match up so just stop.

Let me also say that I don't give a flying **** about you "being a little angel and calling your position a position of responsibility and not power hehehe"; this does not make you an honest person.  

"I played on SL for a long time! But I never saw any tile error's! And one time I saw James205 show some guy his (lil) error and he made him fix it! Soo I am not dissing there PW because it's the most origanal one out there."

A post on that thread by wetferret.

None of my dates match up you got me good.

I believe you've already been called obnoxious, take a hint.

Oh look another post in July 2001. Scalper took over for manager after I left in June as I said.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ead.php?t=6532

I guess saying I uploaded it in March doesn't match up yet.  

Posted by contego

"I played on SL for a long time! But I never saw any tile error's! And one time I saw James205 show some guy his (lil) error and he made him fix it! Soo I am not dissing there PW because it's the most origanal one out there."

A post on that thread by wetferret.

None of my dates match up you got me good.

I believe you've already been called obnoxious, take a hint.

Look dude, I don't even care. You can argue all the **** you want; I 100% don't care. You've already claimed Lycia played Graal with you at the end of 1998, which is the very beginning of Graal; since you are obviously hellbent on botching facts to re-establish a history in your favor to the total and utter disrespect of what I know to be true—have at it. I'm done. I've argued with pathological liars before, and they simply don't care about how their lies conflict with the spirit & experiences of others and will argue to the absolute death about it rather than face being exposed.

Posted by contego

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ead.php?t=6532

I guess saying I uploaded it in March doesn't match up yet.

The fact that you are referencing posts from July & August of 2001 as "PROOOOOOF" that I am a bumbling ass and an idiot while you "CLEARLY opened a playerworld in March" right after we launched P2P just shows how cunningly ridiculous you are. Goodbye  

People confused me with a previous corrupt staff with a similar name when I was global. All signs point to you imo. I can't imagine you at a young less mature version ever having responsibility of Graal. I believe it but it's unfortunate. It was staff like you that made my job harder trying to establish structure. I've always been thankful to anyone who worked for Graal for free to help develop a game we all cared about.

I respect your passion and any positive productive work you've contributed to Graal but the respect ends there.  

OH, and even if my suspicions ARE WRONG I really honestly don't care. My point is that a ton of your facts don't add up—and I am entitled to question your other experiences based on this very basis alone. Lycia was not playing Graal in 1998, and your complete and utter lack of knowledge as to who I am doesn't make sense. To call me an ass for pointing out the obvious flaws in your claims about other players and then attempting to take away my right to question other things you say, including, again, calling me an "ass"—I've lost respect for you.

Posted by contego

People confused me with a previous corrupt staff with a similar name when I was global. All signs point to you imo. I can't imagine you at a young less mature version ever having responsibility of Graal. I believe it but it's unfortunate. It was staff like you that made my job harder trying to establish structure. I've always been thankful to anyone who worked for Graal for free to help develop a game we all cared about.

I respect your passion and any positive productive work you've contributed to Graal but the respect ends there.

OH YOU POOOOOOR MARTYR. Listen to how absolutely self-superior and judgmental you are. I wouldn't work with you if you paid me to work FOR ME. And FYI, take "Messiah" out of your name; you are not the Messiah.  

I'm not 100% sure when Lycia joined but she was definitely playing Graal in 1999. I can only speak for myself so not sure why you are hung up on me saying Lycia might have joined in late '98.  

You old ****s are irrelvent now  

Posted by contego

I'm not 100% sure when Lycia joined but she was definitely playing Graal in 1999. I can only speak for myself so not sure why you are hung up on me saying Lycia might have joined in late '98.

I'm not hung up on it. I'm questioning a lot of the accuracy of your details so that we can get our historical dates straight and you called me an ass for it.

Posted by Ash Ketchum

You old ****s are irrelvent now

lol  

It's not big deal to question it but you're more so on the attack which is why I called you an ass. You stated I started probably 2001. I'm doing the best I can to show, specifically YOU, supporting evidence of my history.  

Posted by contego

It's not big deal to question it but you're more so on the attack which is why I called you an ass. You stated I started probably 2001. I'm doing the best I can to show, specifically YOU, supporting evidence of my history.

Because a looooot of history took place between 1998-2001, and from a professional perspective all of these dates and experiences contribute specifically to our growth in the—essentially—internship. It isn't an attack; it's a demand for accuracy.  

To clarify: Messiah is a family from Graal made by DraXi. Don't know exact date but sometime in '98 or '99.

contego is a name I made in '99 after searching a translator from english to latin "defender" or "to defend". Saw "contego" and used it.

Therefore contego Messiah really means defender or to defend Messiah.

I didn't contribute to Graals development before 2001 really which is probably why you don't know me. I was a player and enjoyed warring with guilds and sparring in Zol's pub where we'd line up around the room to spar or ask most ppl to get out so it didn't lag as much.  

Posted by contego

To clarify: Messiah is a family from Graal made by DraXi. Don't know exact date but sometime in '98 or '99.

contego is a name I made in '99 after searching a translator from english to latin "defender" or "to defend". Saw "contego" and used it.

Therefore contego Messiah really means defender or to defend Messiah.

Fair enough  

Woah, Antago is kind of a jerk. I mostly know him as the guy who was made fun of by everyone, like Lycia, Peach and other people who were hacked and had their conversations and personal files posted online.

I don't know why he doesn't remember Shaded Legend, unless he just quit already by then. Shaded Legend was a famous server. Graal2k1 and Graal Kingdoms were poop.