I was going to get a shipka...I change my mind.  

Posted by Billy

I was going to get a shipka...I change my mind.

I apparently bought the Shipka like, 2 minutes after the patch. This is... ******ed.

If we're going to pay $45 for a virtual weapon, I think it's only fair it's powerful. And sadly, the $75 BAR hasn't been changed it seems. Ridiculous. Can we please get the Shipka back to what it was?  

Sorry but refunds need to be given for modifications made after purchase. 120k is much different than what happened to the M-16. You're punishing those who bought gralat packs to get a Shipka. This is not the same gun I bought. It's useless.

And I think it's also really sad that the AK was slowed down simply to sell Tommy guns. Or maybe it was just to lose to them :/ What you're doing is defrauding players by changing weapons they've bought to sell more weapons.  

Edit: I would be fine with the freeze rate if the accuracy was restored to 100%...  

Posted by BootySlayer

Sorry but refunds need to be given for modifications made after purchase. 120k is much different than what happened to the M-16. You're punishing those who bought gralat packs to get a Shipka. This is not the same gun I bought. It's useless.

And I think it's also really sad that the AK was slowed down simply to sell Tommy guns. Or maybe it was just to lose to them :/ What you're doing is defrauding players by changing weapons they've bought to sell more weapons.

Well said, all true. rep+

Oh and when something good comes in like the item slots and the ability to get more, just remember graalians something better will always go like the gun freez increased ect...  

It feels like my Shipka is basically a Tec9... Can I request a refund?  

Posted by BootySlayer

Sorry but refunds need to be given for modifications made after purchase. 120k is much different than what happened to the M-16. You're punishing those who bought gralat packs to get a Shipka. This is not the same gun I bought. It's useless.

And I think it's also really sad that the AK was slowed down simply to sell Tommy guns. Or maybe it was just to lose to them :/ What you're doing is defrauding players by changing weapons they've bought to sell more weapons.

Completely false. Want to know what I did to the Shipka? Added a TINY bit of freeze on it. That's all. It's still the same gun. Same with BAR. I'm not punishing anybody, I did not sit there and make them buy gralat packs in order to buy this gun. So, I will not take responsibility for "making" people buy anything. I'd rather people not buy gralat packs to buy guns, but if that is what they want then that is THEIR choice. How people go about getting the gun is on them.

I stated in another thread that I wasn't done with the guns yet and things still may change. And, I did plan on doing the AK when I got around to it after finishing other guns. And finally, I'm not "defrauding" the players by buffing weapons in order to make room for new ones. I've wanted to do this for months now.

Anything else?  

lol i,m happy you added a biy of freeze xD it was too powerful xD  

i remember this .... so i am an eye witness ;) and all balanced , WTF  

First of all, the clip size was changed significantly and has since been changed back. Adding freeze, no matter how much and whether you want to admit it or not, makes it a DIFFERENT gun and not the gun we bought.

Second, if Graal didn't want people to buy gralat packs they would make better paying jobs and less expensive guns. *With a shelling rate of 4k an hour, I personally don't have time to dig for 50 hours for a BAR which doesn't seem to have changed at all or people would be complaining about that, not Shipka.*

But regardless of how the gun was purchased, the fact that it was changed after it was bought makes either the time or money spent on it a waste if it can't be used effectively in the field. Shipka owners already had a disadvantage against BARs. The field WAS level.

And third, modifying a weapon after purchase is bait and switch. That's what fraud IS. People should be given the option of getting a refund if they're not satisfied with a gun after its been changed if you want happy players.

This isn't a personal attack, seeing as I don't know you so you shouldn't take it that way. Just sayin, more foresight should have been used in the planning stages to account for new weapons and testing changes should be done before players even see the final result.*  

omg are you kidding me, my name for 5 days was digging for shipka, some of you may have seen that, and I dug my a** off to get that, and if the managers/pr's are gonna start changing that gun to make it even worse when ur up against a bar, we should be able to get refunds.
I bought mine 15 or so days ago...  

Shipka doesn't need to be balanced. It cost an arm and a leg for a reason -./  

Posted by Boxxi Bearz

omg are you kidding me, my name for 5 days was digging for shipka, some of you may have seen that, and I dug my a** off to get that, and if the managers/pr's are gonna start changing that gun to make it even worse when ur up against a bar, we should be able to get refunds.
I bought mine 15 or so days ago...

Same I dug for a solid week for my shipka (couple of weeks ago) and all people should at least get 20k in compensation for that change, because when we paied for it we got what was expected but this change wasnt what we expected of tu shipka :/  

Posted by Jester Lapse

Shipka doesn't need to be balanced. It cost an arm and a leg for a reason -./

Summed up the whole thread in two sentences. Can we please get this reverted?