this may seem really stupid and ill probably get some rage comments but whatever. ive been wondering this for a while now.

for a while now glitchers have been going off map, exploring, having fun. and since the staff have taken huge steps in order to stop them. crowding the borders with ugly poorly placed trees, then tons of warps all over the place, spending time fixing the house jump, banning players on first offense for being caught off map, and taking other extensive measure to get rid of glitchers. theyve taken the largest measure recently removing all of the off map buildings and replacing them with grass.

my question is why? these guys are'nt hurting anyone by going off map. they're not revealing new areas because the staff does'nt even show them before they open. i mean i get it that you dont want them in the game, and that theyre breaking the rules, but is all this stuff necessary? i feel like your spending a lot of time on such a small cause that could be much better spent giving us actual content. especially since they aren't hurting anyone. they have fun running around exploring the areas which aren't; and probably never will be released. why? this is how a lot of people had fun in the game. while you shouldnt play a game just to break the rule, by fixing these your losing players and just saying "no you cant have fun this way". in my opinion graal has way bigger problems than glitchers. maybe we should be concentrating on that stuff instead. of course if you catch one jail him, and im not saying remove everything you've done, except maybe the ugly trees. but go easier on them since theyre not really doing anything harmful to the game, or the players. id also like to know why so much of the staff attention has been focused on this group of maybe 200 players at most at any one time.  

The glitchers are violating rules and breaking into areas that arent allowed to be entered. Think about it. If you said nobody is allowed to enter you're house, but someone did. You would like call the cops or something right? Your pretty much saying sit there like a lump and do nothing about people busting through you're door and breaking in.  

It only makes sense they they would fix glitches, they are flaws in the game. If they didn't care if people went off map than more people would do it, and that isn't what the game is for. There's nothing to see there and they might want to use that space to test stuff, it's not for us to know what's being worked on. Bottom line is they aren't going to allow it due to the simple fact that it would promote abuse of the game's flaws in order to do so.  

A victimless crime is still a crime.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

It only makes sense they they would fix glitches, they are flaws in the game. If they didn't care if people went off map than more people would do it, and that isn't what the game is for. There's nothing to see there and they might want to use that space to test stuff, it's not for us to know what's being worked on. Bottom line is they aren't going to allow it due to the simple fact that it would promote abuse of the game's flaws in order to do so.

Well I guess I understand fixing them like house jump etc. but I still don't see the big deal. I know it's not what the games for and I'm not saying they should encourage it in just questioning why they spend so much time on such an insignificant matter. And I know it's not for us to know. But they don't even work in additions on the server now. I support this because while it was funny and cool seeing the new furn and hats before they're released from my friends, it's unfair. That neede to be fixed, getting items early, spreading unreleased content, etc. however since they did they still cut down on glitching a lot. They really began to cut down after Yorktown was released. This town wasn't able to be seen by glitching there. There were building there but they were from the original classic. When the town opened everything was new. I'm not saying to allow it. But I just feel like the time would be much better spent doing other things. Maybe if the staff didn't spend all their time fixing glitches and making quests people would stop to use the actual content. I used to only glitch when I was bored. I was bored from lack of content. There was lack of content partially because the staff were focusing on glitchers. And I don't know why. And I want to. Lol  

The real reason is because people are watching other people do something they cannot do (either unable to or 'against the rules'), and they feel this act of "not everyone is equal" goes against their idea of fair treatment. Oh loawdy no! Please don't whips me, Masta!

So as a means to putting up with the consistent bitching, the staff are forced to "care".
While it could have been a victimless crime- Bitchy people will do bitchy things by getting themselves offended  

Posted by Beholder

The real reason is because people are watching other people do something they cannot do (either unable to or 'against the rules'), and they feel this act of "not everyone is equal" goes against their idea of fair treatment. Oh loawdy no! Please don't whips me, Masta!

So as a means to putting up with the consistent bitching, the staff are forced to "care".
While it could have been a victimless crime- Bitchy people will do bitchy things by getting themselves offended

Who could that be possibly be directed at ?*innocentface*


Anyway, I understand why they would want to stop it, but I don't see why so much effort is but into stopping it when most of the old gmap will be replaced anyway, and no offense, although incomplete, a lot of the stuff on the gmap is way more fun to explore and travel around. You know, you can find towns without shops selling graphics in them, and there is mazes and cool latting and buildings I'm sorry I'll never see.. I wish there was a way I could get one of those gmaps and just go through it offline... I want to explore and see everything there..

Sure punish those glitching for wrong reasons like to show off / taunt other players or get some advantage over players, but why punish someone just exploring something great before its replaced with yet another graphics shop or spar that won't be used.

It's really not worth their time to be doing all this, and how they botched the gmap to stop people exploring it is just cruel to new players that will now never see the wonders out there..  

Calm down it's a game. O_o  

I heard my name mentioned:0  

Probably to leak out some exclusive information thats not supposed to be shown  

Posted by Maikeru

Probably to leak out some exclusive information thats not supposed to be shown

They make updates offline now. Glitchers won't see them even if they go the day before the update.  

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you completely. They're violating the set rules. Horse glitching at towers is one of the biggest problems. Players will just get on their horse and glitch through a wall and take a big shortcut to the top of the tower. I see this mainly at Swamp and MoD towers. Let me explain it using an example of Call of Duty. What if someone glitched into a rock and couldn't be shot, but he could shoot you. You wouldn't like glitchers doing that. Same thing goes for Graal. Someone could horse glitch into your fort, bomb spam you, or something of that matter. Players are given a fair warning not to glitch, but if they continue, then they do deserve a ban.  

Posted by Godzilla

They make updates offline now. Glitchers won't see them even if they go the day before the update.

They are mostly done on the dev server (new areas). I think insides are still getting uploaded and will just get linked if they are supposed to be released/got approved.  

There's no point in glitching to be honest.  

Ok, why don't We all glitch outside in real life you can always explore that way. :O