Looking to expand my collection of PS3 games (currently 1 rofl).

Metal Gear Solid 5 was one of the many that caught my eye during E3 since the second half of the game is coming out shortly.

Does anybody have this game and is it any good?

I don't plan on getting it immediately (waiting for second half to come out) but I'd like to know how you guys like it.  

Screw Metal Gear Solid 5. Metal Gear Rising Revengeance was amazing and I don't even play the Metal Gear series.  

Agreed.

But I'm really looking for a game to scratch my Tactical Spying itch and MGS5 really does seem like a cool game.

Open-world really is an amazing thing.

And when Phantom Pain comes out you'll be able to customize your own base with all sorts of cool stuff like sheep. No seriously.  

I love Metal Gear. I've avoided the latest release because I heard it's more of a "demo" than anything, so I'll just wait for Phantom Pain.  

Posted by Tyler

Screw Metal Gear Solid 5. Metal Gear Rising Revengeance was amazing and I don't even play the Metal Gear series.

Yeah, I hadn't really been in to the Metal Gear series until Rising Revengeance came out.  

Never played any of the MGS games. The closest thing I have played to that style of gameplay (stealth, tactical, 3rd person, story) are the Assassins Creed games. Are MGS games better? I hear they end too fast and nothing to do after the end, along with boring cutscenes. I do hear the gameplay is pretty open and non-restricting, allowing you to make your own choices on how you are going to do things. Is this true? Is it better than assassins creed?  

Well, like you, I've never played any MGS games either or any AC games on that matter.

MGS5 is the first I believe to go full open world and MGRR did have a pretty good storyline.

I feel you may need to play the previous games to understand the story or else you'll be confused as hell.

So I guess it's more of personal preference since one is based more on futuristic events and the other is based on historical.  

Posted by 5hift

Well, like you, I've never played any MGS games either or any AC games on that matter.

MGS5 is the first I believe to go full open world and MGRR did have a pretty good storyline.

I feel you may need to play the previous games to understand the story or else you'll be confused as hell.

So I guess it's more of personal preference since one is based more on futuristic events and the other is based on historical.

Yeah but after judging some gameplay I watched on MGS5 (which looked pretty damn cool, but they always make those trailers look flawless and cool) I came to realize it has many similarities to assassins creed than one would originally think. Parkour, Hiding spots, Tactical Stealth Measures, Hiding bodies, Enemy detection and pursuit.

Hell, this snake guys is just like a modern day assassin. I bet he joined the creed.  

Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater was one of the best PS2 games to ever be released.

MGS 3 you play as Naked Snake better know as Big Boss and he is not the same one you play in MS4 thats Solid Snake, his son.

In MGS 3 you could either focus on stealth or do run n gun through out the entire game. Their was a mix of weapons in it and you also had to survive by killing animals like snakes, crocodiles, deers. You could also damage parts of your body to the point where you would limp or have bad accuracy with your gun. You would use things real life doctors would use on your wounds to heal. You could also camouflage with the environment. The boss fights were very fun as you would face this old sniper man and the battle could take ages as you had to use some of your gadgets to find him because he was very stealthy. The combat is amazing as you can kill people in many weapons for example you walk onto a enemy and grab him. Then you got plenty of options available to you like interrogating him for information or just slicing his throat to knocking him. The voice acting is amazing also and the story is by the far the best in series.

MGS 5 is no doubt going to be best in the series as it improves on everything I stated.  

Posted by Kendama

Never played any of the MGS games. The closest thing I have played to that style of gameplay (stealth, tactical, 3rd person, story) are the Assassins Creed games. Are MGS games better? I hear they end too fast and nothing to do after the end, along with boring cutscenes. I do hear the gameplay is pretty open and non-restricting, allowing you to make your own choices on how you are going to do things. Is this true? Is it better than assassins creed?

I like the Metal Gear games way more than my impressions of Assassins Creed. Admittedly I have only played AC 2 and Black Flag, but I wouldn't say they're really comparable.

Assassin's Creed is about killing people in plain sight, in very populated areas. Metal Gear Solis isn't really about killing... it's about staying out of sight, from handful of people/things(cameras and such). It's also pretty linear to a degree. You don't have an open world to run around in. Mostly it's getting from Point A to Point B in the most efficient manner possible(and by efficient I mean the least amount of alerts). Now it's not a straight corridor, and there's backtracking and changes and such that occur. However most of the choices come from how you choose to deal with the guards. For example, from Point A to Point B may actually provide you with two paths. Each path leads to the same place, but has different security and guards that are doing different patrols. Even while stealthing, you have choices in how to dispatch with threats. You can get behind them and choke them out, or you can break their necks. You can leave the bodies there or choose to move them. You can also hold guards up by sneaking up behind them and pointing a gun to their heads, this nets a dogtag or other items/drops. Or you can just sneak around them via exploiting their patrols. It's a linear game, with a variety of approaches.

The Metal Gear games aren't designed in a way that will let you fight/gun your way through it. You have guns, but they're typically a last stand/boss sort of thing. More importantly, it's about sneaking past guards, avoiding cameras, hiding in cardboard boxes and looking at sexy posters while hiding in a locker.

Also, the story in Metal Gear isn't like any other games... seriously. It's insanely elaborate, confusing, and lengthy. The final cutscene in Metal Gear Solid 4 is I think over an hour long or something like that. That's just ONE cutscene... there are a lot of cutscenes like that. It's hit or miss. TBH I wouldn't bother trying to keep track of the story yourself beyond what's actually important to completing the game. It'll make more sense jumping on a wiki afterwards.

As for length... I don't feel they're short. Maybe if you skip all the cutscenes, but typically you don't do that. Metal Gear Solid 4 may be short, but I never felt like 1-3 were short at all.

Finally, the game has LOTS of easter eggs and it's one of those games where the Devs Think of Everything. It's a bit of a crazy sort of franchise, but for some very good reasons. I suggest trying the first if you can. If you can't stand the PS1 graphics there was a remake released on Gamecube of various reception. The graphics of the remake were good, but they had a new guy do the cinematics and some things are downright silly(like Snake jumping onto a missile fired at him and backflipping off of it). If you can't play the first, try the second. It's my favorite, personally. MG3 comes in a close second. The second one really stuck to the roots of the original and didn't really experiment much with the gameplay, contrary to the ones released after it, so I really enjoyed the simplicity of the game.  

Posted by Dusty

I like the Metal Gear games way more than my impressions of Assassins Creed. Admittedly I have only played AC 2 and Black Flag, but I wouldn't say they're really comparable.

Assassin's Creed is about killing people in plain sight, in very populated areas. Metal Gear Solis isn't really about killing... it's about staying out of sight, from handful of people/things(cameras and such). It's also pretty linear to a degree. You don't have an open world to run around in. Mostly it's getting from Point A to Point B in the most efficient manner possible(and by efficient I mean the least amount of alerts). Now it's not a straight corridor, and there's backtracking and changes and such that occur. However most of the choices come from how you choose to deal with the guards. For example, from Point A to Point B may actually provide you with two paths. Each path leads to the same place, but has different security and guards that are doing different patrols. Even while stealthing, you have choices in how to dispatch with threats. You can get behind them and choke them out, or you can break their necks. You can leave the bodies there or choose to move them. You can also hold guards up by sneaking up behind them and pointing a gun to their heads, this nets a dogtag or other items/drops. Or you can just sneak around them via exploiting their patrols. It's a linear game, with a variety of approaches.

The Metal Gear games aren't designed in a way that will let you fight/gun your way through it. You have guns, but they're typically a last stand/boss sort of thing. More importantly, it's about sneaking past guards, avoiding cameras, hiding in cardboard boxes and looking at sexy posters while hiding in a locker.

Also, the story in Metal Gear isn't like any other games... seriously. It's insanely elaborate, confusing, and lengthy. The final cutscene in Metal Gear Solid 4 is I think over an hour long or something like that. That's just ONE cutscene... there are a lot of cutscenes like that. It's hit or miss. TBH I wouldn't bother trying to keep track of the story yourself beyond what's actually important to completing the game. It'll make more sense jumping on a wiki afterwards.

As for length... I don't feel they're short. Maybe if you skip all the cutscenes, but typically you don't do that. Metal Gear Solid 4 may be short, but I never felt like 1-3 were short at all.

Finally, the game has LOTS of easter eggs and it's one of those games where the Devs Think of Everything. It's a bit of a crazy sort of franchise, but for some very good reasons. I suggest trying the first if you can. If you can't stand the PS1 graphics there was a remake released on Gamecube of various reception. The graphics of the remake were good, but they had a new guy do the cinematics and some things are downright silly(like Snake jumping onto a missile fired at him and backflipping off of it). If you can't play the first, try the second. It's my favorite, personally. MG3 comes in a close second. The second one really stuck to the roots of the original and didn't really experiment much with the gameplay, contrary to the ones released after it, so I really enjoyed the simplicity of the game.

Thanks for the detailed reply! Yeah the stealth element definetly seems more appealing in metal gear rather than assassins creed. I am thinking to trying them out now and seeing for myself. I will probably try PS1 first because I have a PS1 I still use to play Chrono Cross in my room, and the old games for those are dirt cheap at my local playntrade!  

Glad to see I saw a post about Metal Gear Solid 5.

Sadly The Phantom Pain was pushed by to late 2015
But they did show more gameplay of it and I have been playing all the MGS games but still haven't played 4 and Ground Zero.

They did show the Elite Sniper bad ass Quiet but people are yelling sexism because of what she wears.

 

Posted by Santa Claus

but people are yelling sexism because of what she wears.

What? This is nothing new for MGS... why are people suddenly acting so surprised? Are they just going to act like MGS3 never existed?  

Posted by Dusty

What? This is nothing new for MGS... why are people suddenly acting so surprised? Are they just going to act like MGS3 never existed?

likely the same mentalities as the people who complained about spiderwoman:

 

Posted by Dusty

What? This is nothing new for MGS... why are people suddenly acting so surprised? Are they just going to act like MGS3 never existed?

yeah I know lol The easter eggs were to find the photos of girls in bikinis. Even Rising had girls naked but with signs covering their private parts up.

Noobs to the game.