GST Losers bracket - 2

David M. · 09-02-2014

More sparring rewards/contests! It's one of the main activities graal has!

Also Xor once told me the reason that GST was changed to once a 3months was because there arn't enough admins who volunteered to help?

twilit · 09-02-2014

I think this is a great idea.
In response to Ph8: The GST really needs to be automated. Of course, you still need hosts for the "main" winners bracket matches (to monitor fairness and lag etc), but the losers bracket matches wouldnt require a host (because it is less important) and could be fully automated.

A few further ideas:
-The losers bracket matches would be viewed in a separate viewing room (since fewer people such as guild members/friends would be interested in seeing loser matches)
-Participating in loser matches is optional.
-Round 1 losers only GS vs other round 1 losers, and will take place during the main round 2.

Chasee · 09-03-2014

Posted by twilit

I think this is a great idea.
In response to Ph8: The GST really needs to be automated. Of course, you still need hosts for the "main" winners bracket matches (to monitor fairness and lag etc), but the losers bracket matches wouldnt require a host (because it is less important) and could be fully automated.

A few further ideas:
-The losers bracket matches would be viewed in a separate viewing room (since fewer people such as guild members/friends would be interested in seeing loser matches)
-Participating in loser matches is optional.
-Round 1 losers only GS vs other round 1 losers, and will take place during the main round 2.

Thanks for sharing your ideas! I totally agree very good points.

Craftz · 09-03-2014

Wasn't there a third place in the GST when it first started that would win a hat?

Chasee · 09-03-2014

Posted by Craftz1

Wasn't there a third place in the GST when it first started that would win a hat?

I dont think so

Thallen · 09-03-2014

Posted by Craftz1

Wasn't there a third place in the GST when it first started that would win a hat?

yes

Kuz · 09-03-2014

I think a few improvements for next GST would be:

-Android to join iDevice because there isn't a much difference between iPhone/iPod/iPad users and Android users.

-During GST week can we get like a small something next go guild names in spar leader-board that shows what GST they are in e.g. iDevice or Android as this would help to know your competition and work out brackets.

-Can the formula for how brackets are worked out to be posted because when I ask people I get lots of different answers.

-Also I heard GST used to be once every month since GST is the peak of iClassics playercount wouldn't it be better to move it back to once every month I mean people have personal stuff to do during GSTs e.g. work etc. and becuase they cannot log on they have to wait another 3 months.

Winter · 09-03-2014

Posted by twilit

In response to Ph8: The GST really needs to be automated. Of course, you still need hosts for the "main" winners bracket matches (to monitor fairness and lag etc), but the losers bracket matches wouldnt require a host (because it is less important) and could be fully automated.

An ideal automated tournament would flow as smoothly as possible. There would be little room for errors, but there would also be little room to correct any errors. Things can get messy. I think the best way to implement an automated system is to go about it little by little until we find our ideal combination of automation and human interaction.

Sharp Serenity · 09-03-2014

I think a few improvements for next GST would be:

-Android to join iDevice because there isn't a much difference between iPhone/iPod/iPad users and Android users.

As an Android Sparrer I completely think this should be implemented. And if it is not can we at least get our own spar room since pc and idevice does?

David M. · 09-03-2014

I think GST is fine as it is, it's just that 4 GSTs a year are way too few.

Thallen · 09-03-2014

I'm indifferent about more GSTs

On one hand, it makes sparring more active
The other hand, more frequent GSTs dilute the quality of the experience

I think I'd lean towards supporting it because it'd force other guilds to behave like Alumni, where you maintain the same GST roster each tournament, because one month isn't enough time to allow for most guilds to dissolve and then remake - would be a lot of extra work for guild leaders though, but oh well

Craftz · 09-04-2014

Wasn't the GST changed from every month to every season because of how much work it is for the staff?

GOAT · 09-04-2014

Posted by Kuz

-Also I heard GST used to be once every month since GST is the peak of iClassics playercount wouldn't it be better to move it back to once every month I mean people have personal stuff to do during GSTs e.g. work etc. and becuase they cannot log on they have to wait another 3 months.

that applies to staff too.

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Sharp Serenity Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 76	I think a few improvements for next GST would be: -Android to join iDevice because there isn't a much difference between iPhone/iPod/iPad users and Android users. As an Android Sparrer I completely think this should be implemented. And if it is not can we at least get our own spar room since pc and idevice does? Last edited by Sharp Serenity; 09-03-2014 at 09:25 PM. Reason: **ed up quote

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David M. ~David M. Join Date: May 2013 Location: At the gym Posts: 416	More sparring rewards/contests! It's one of the main activities graal has! Also Xor once told me the reason that GST was changed to once a 3months was because there arn't enough admins who volunteered to help?

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twilit michael Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hyrule Posts: 3,511	I think this is a great idea. In response to Ph8: The GST really needs to be automated. Of course, you still need hosts for the "main" winners bracket matches (to monitor fairness and lag etc), but the losers bracket matches wouldnt require a host (because it is less important) and could be fully automated. A few further ideas: -The losers bracket matches would be viewed in a separate viewing room (since fewer people such as guild members/friends would be interested in seeing loser matches) -Participating in loser matches is optional. -Round 1 losers only GS vs other round 1 losers, and will take place during the main round 2.

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Craftz New Age Legacy Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graal Posts: 1,633	Wasn't there a third place in the GST when it first started that would win a hat?

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Kuz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 888	I think a few improvements for next GST would be: -Android to join iDevice because there isn't a much difference between iPhone/iPod/iPad users and Android users. -During GST week can we get like a small something next go guild names in spar leader-board that shows what GST they are in e.g. iDevice or Android as this would help to know your competition and work out brackets. -Can the formula for how brackets are worked out to be posted because when I ask people I get lots of different answers. -Also I heard GST used to be once every month since GST is the peak of iClassics playercount wouldn't it be better to move it back to once every month I mean people have personal stuff to do during GSTs e.g. work etc. and becuase they cannot log on they have to wait another 3 months.

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	I'm indifferent about more GSTs On one hand, it makes sparring more active The other hand, more frequent GSTs dilute the quality of the experience I think I'd lean towards supporting it because it'd force other guilds to behave like Alumni, where you maintain the same GST roster each tournament, because one month isn't enough time to allow for most guilds to dissolve and then remake - would be a lot of extra work for guild leaders though, but oh well

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Craftz New Age Legacy Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graal Posts: 1,633	Wasn't the GST changed from every month to every season because of how much work it is for the staff?