Posted by noroup

The irrefutable truth is that the innocent people have literally no where to go and instead of attacking the actual threats, IDF attack the innocent citizens who haven't taken part in the war.

I think it's a seriously ugly thing that Israel is bombing schools. I saw videos of parents in agony because their children died from the bombing. Israel bombing the schools is pretty ****ed up.

Israel should stop fighting they obviously have the advantage. Maybe make a deal for Hamas to stop firing rockets in order for IDF troops to retreat and a permanent rocket cease fire

The reason Israel is hitting civilian targets like schools is because Hamas are launching rockets from there. Hamas are refusing all deals unless all their demands are met, they are clearly in no position to have the upper hand in negotiating.  

Then the IDF should do the right thing and evacuate the schools from children. The IDF reserves is over 50,000. They are well armed and have tanks. They could evacuate the schools from children at least before they bomb them  

Doing so would put many Israeli soldiers at risk, that is what they are trying to avoid hence the bombardments and airstrikes. Hamas will not allow them to do that because they would lose their meat shields.  

Posted by lord greg

Doing so would put many Israeli soldiers at risk, that is what they are trying to avoid hence the bombardments and airstrikes. Hamas will not allow them to do that because they would lose their meat shields.

Show me evidence they use human shields. Btw Israeli soldiers are scared of Hamas now. A lot of them are refusing to fight.

Posted by MementoJoker

Like every government official isn't really an answer, if he's taking donation money to buy weapons and fuel this war I don't think he's like any government official.
Yasser Arafat would have never done anything like that and if you have 2-3 billion dollars in Palestine I doubt he earned 1 single dollar and I don't know any government official who isn't corrupt as hell to have this much money.
If Palestinians want a state (that's what people believe Hamas are fighting for) it will be controlled by Hamas (who a large percentage Palestinians vote for) who are an Islamist militant group that despise Israel.
I don't think this would work out pretty well.
'UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon "expresses his outrage and regret at the placing of weapons in a UN-administered school," a United Nations statement said last week. "By doing so, those responsible are turning schools into potential military targets, and endangering the lives of innocent children, UN employees working in such facilities and anyone using the UN schools as shelter," the statement added.'
Proof that Hamas terrorists are using schools with children to launch their attacks.
I didn't know Gaza is so small the only place they could think of using are hospitals and schools.
The people Gaza can look to is Fatah, but Hamas hate their own Palestinian brothers.
Actually Israel conducts the operations in response to the rockets being fired.

"Palestinian armed groups have stored munitions in and fired indiscriminate rockets from residential areas in the Gaza Strip," an Amnesty report noted recently. The groups have also "reportedly urged residents in some areas of the Gaza Strip not to leave their homes" after Israel had warned it would attack the area, all of which have the effect of putting Palestinians at risk in the fighting.''-Amnesty International
Also I have never said that Israeli civilians who don't live next to the borders are victims as most of the rockets are intercepted.
Israel is a first world country, I'm sure most of them carry on with their lives normally.
It is Hamas fault that they deploy their rockets from civilian areas and thus bring danger to the civilians.
Also Gaza officials found shelter in Gaza City's Shifa Hospital, I don't think they chose a hospital because of lack of options.
Another important question: Why are Fatah activists under house arrest?

Hamas does not want peace with Israel and will eventually attack Fatah.
They use schools and hospitals as shelter.
They attack innocent Egyptian soldiers and civilians.
Their leader is a warlord.
They use human shields.

Disregarding Hamas for a second Israel wants to peace with Fatah either. A Harvard professor theorized that the whole point of this operation is to undermine the Fatah-Hamas unity government which you would think would lead to peace. However Netanyahu and his right-wing government just wants more land and more war.  

Posted by MementoJoker

'UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon "expresses his outrage and regret at the placing of weapons in a UN-administered school," a United Nations statement said last week. "By doing so, those responsible are turning schools into potential military targets, and endangering the lives of innocent children, UN employees working in such facilities and anyone using the UN schools as shelter," the statement added.'
Proof that Hamas terrorists are using schools with children to launch their attacks.

There you go.  

Posted by lord greg

There you go.

Empty schools that weren't being used as shelters T_T. Give me proof they're launching from civilian areas.  

Posted by iHot

Empty schools that weren't being used as shelters T_T. Give me proof they're launching from civilian areas.

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...e-2885936.html
I can't believe you're supporting these terrorists if you want a Palestinian state you should support Fatah or something.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852GRuxVfro  

Posted by MementoJoker

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...e-2885936.html
I can't believe you're supporting these terrorists if you want a Palestinian state you should support Fatah or something.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852GRuxVfro

Meh Fatah is corrupt and Abbas bends over for the US and Israel a lot and it's gotten him nowhere. I also truly believe that this war will never be solved diplomatically because Israel's leadership doesn't want peace. What makes me sad is that the people of Palestine will never get justice. The people of Gaza never will. Even if Hamas never existed.
Now the Pentagon has confirmed they are arming Israel with munitions to kill more children while at the same time calling for a ceasefire. What's the point in bending your knee to an occupier and wait for your death? The people of Gaza would rather die fighting than wait for their death. Israel is an apartheid state and just as much of terrorists as Hamas is (yes Hamas has some terroristic parts of it I just support their fight for Palestinian freedom).

Oh and about the 'Children of Gaza' thing it's sad. Really sad. But the problem is what are these kids supposed to do with their education? In a place with a 40% unemployment rate, crippling blockade and has the title of "Worlds Largest Open Air Prison" you can't do much with any education.  

Hamas keep breaking the peace. They have broken almost all of the ceasefires with continued rocket firing. Neither side are particularly looking for peace but lets face it, Israel will come out of this better unless negotiations are successful.  

Posted by lord greg

Hamas keep breaking the peace. They have broken almost all of the ceasefires with continued rocket firing. Neither side are particularly looking for peace but lets face it, Israel will come out of this better unless negotiations are successful.

They did most of the ceasefires. They just denied their extensions because it would allow Israel to continue operations in Eastern Gaza. The Egyptian ceasefire was also total garbage and one-sided.

Anyway Israel has proven it's might over Gaza. Now they're just trying to break the people of Gaza into submitting to their illegal occupation. Something they will never succeed in.  

What would happen if Hamas got what they wanted though? Would they be better off? You seem to support them so answer me those questions.  

Posted by lord greg

What would happen if Hamas got what they wanted though? Would they be better off? You seem to support them so answer me those questions.

Screw Hamas I don't care what happens to them after this war. I think their damn rockets aren't getting us anywhere. All I support from Hamas is their fight to lift the siege and blockade on Gaza so that the people there can finally be allowed the basic rights which apparently everyone is supposed to have. I don't support the executions and **** that's barbaric and backwards.

I'm shocked anyone even sides with Israel anymore. Their support is dwindling though. People are opening their eyes now and aren't just getting their news from Fox News,MSNBC or BBC which are all pro-Israel and give no real account of the situation in Gaza. When I see dead kids on the ground I ask myself "Who are the real terrorists?"  

Posted by iHot

Screw Hamas I don't care what happens to them. I support their fight to lift the siege and blockade on Gaza so that the people there can finally be allowed the basic rights which apparently everyone is supposed to have.

The problem is that Hamas will be in control if they 'win', they will be unpopular because the only reason people like them is because they say they will free Gaza. If they 'free' Gaza from Israel it will just be under their control which won't be much better.  

Posted by lord greg

The problem is that Hamas will be in control if they 'win', they will be unpopular because the only reason people like them is because they say they will free Gaza. If they 'free' Gaza from Israel it will just be under their control which won't be much better.

They're already in control. People in Gaza know what they're about and judging by the fact most of them support Hamas I don't think they're very opposed to it. I mean when you've been living under a blockade, have no job, your friends and family are dead and you have nowhere to go.. The hope they speak of is like a light at the end of the tunnel.

Nothing is worse than that. Nothing.  

Posted by iHot

They're already in control. People in Gaza know what they're about and judging by the fact most of them support Hamas I don't think they're very opposed to it. I mean when you've been living under a blockade, have no job, your friends and family are dead and you have nowhere to go.. The hope they speak of is like a light at the end of the tunnel.

Nothing is worse than that. Nothing.

They don't have full control though, Israel has proven it has the most control over the region with its ability to strike at will. Hamas is a group of terrorists, nothing more. They have no ability to lead the area only wage a war of attrition.

Posted by iHot

I'm shocked anyone even sides with Israel anymore. Their support is dwindling though. People are opening their eyes now and aren't just getting their news from Fox News,MSNBC or BBC which are all pro-Israel and give no real account of the situation in Gaza. When I see dead kids on the ground I ask myself "Who are the real terrorists?"

Have you actually seen the reports from people like the BBC? The BBC I know for a fact has a balanced view because they give the facts and an unbiased stand point apart from certain articles which are the journalists opinions.