The top 100 guilds. - 5

Colin · 07-28-2014

It wasn't rage lmao it was me making sure you understood clearly no one really cares now I am leaving to go do other things you are not worth the discussion good bye

Craftz · 07-28-2014

Posted by Colin

It wasn't rage lmao it was me making sure you understood clearly no one really cares now I am leaving to go do other things you are not worth the discussion good bye

If you didn't care you would never have posted your opinion here. Oh well! It seems you are leaving because you know you are wrong and can't back up your reasons.

Fulgore · 07-28-2014

There isn't a "wrong" system of tower rewards and there isn't a "right" one, there are differing ones. I agree with Colin that there isn't anything wrong with the system, noone is being hurt by it, I don't see reason to change. The so called "hat-chasers" argument isn't even worth explaining anymore and aside from that there isn't a reason for the change.

Colin · 07-28-2014

Posted by Craftz1

If you didn't care you would never have posted your opinion here. Oh well! It seems you are leaving because you know you are wrong and can't back up your reasons.

Am watching Avatar lmao, how can I be wrong when I am saying a system that has been used for years has nothing wrong with it? Clearly they haven't changed it for a reason.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Kendama · 07-28-2014

Posted by Colin

Am watching Avatar lmao, how can I be wrong when I am saying a system that has been used for years has nothing wrong with it? Clearly they haven't changed it for a reason.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Certain management necessarily has not showed they appreciate the hat chasing either. I am sure some do not have an opinion, though.

And btw, they did change it. The only reason they changed it back was because all of the guilds pre-1k (and hat chasing families, like the pigparty guilds) that complained about this "generic 1k item".

The system, in many of our opinions, would benefit from adding incentive to continue a guild rather than creating a penalty.

I do not see why you think it is appropriate to insult and bash other members simply because they share another, conflicting, opinion from your own. A respectable forum member learns that the only way to progress in a thread, or to back-up your own opinion, is to provide examples and statements pertaining to the topic at hand while refraining from the use of vulgar terms, insults, rage sentences, and most importantly- learns to address your opposers back-up statements rather than just repeating your own.

Colin · 07-28-2014

lmao

Craftz · 07-28-2014

What is so funny about his post?

Colin · 07-28-2014

You guys

Santa Claus · 07-28-2014

LMAO

GOAT · 07-28-2014

The towering system that is currently in place is fine, but what is causing problems to some players might be the way players are using the system that is currently in place. If you change the hrs required for people to get hats, i dont think it will stop people from hat chasing only prolong their journey a lil bit.

Personally I dont have a problem if it changes or stays the same as the only time I go into towers is usually to PK or to buy rare hats like the white halo hat in castle that i didnt have in my collection.

The ones that would be impacted the most would probably be the new guilds trying to tower. Theres 7 towers around the map and if 3 are held by 2k+ tower guilds and 3 by hat chasing tower guilds that only leaves the new noob guild with mod tower as the only realistic tower to take.

Toxic · 07-28-2014

Posted by GOAT

The towering system that is currently in place is fine, but what is causing problems to some players might be the way players are using the system that is currently in place. If you change the hrs required for people to get hats, i dont think it will stop people from hat chasing only prolong their journey a lil bit.

Personally I dont have a problem if it changes or stays the same as the only time I go into towers is usually to PK or to buy rare hats like the white halo hat in castle that i didnt have in my collection.

The ones that would be impacted the most would probably be the new guilds trying to tower. Theres 7 towers around the map and if 3 are held by 2k+ tower guilds and 3 by hat chasing tower guilds that only leaves the new noob guild with mod tower as the only realistic tower to take.

Well put GOAT!

Thallen · 07-29-2014

Posted by GOAT

The towering system that is currently in place is fine, but what is causing problems to some players might be the way players are using the system that is currently in place.

Yes, you stated it 100% correctly.

The active towerers are "using the system that is currently in place," a system that has been implemented by staff to encourage towering, which it's doing a great job of. I think the rewards are structured pretty well after the GIF change.

Then we have certain crybabies, who aren't capable of "using the system that is currently in place" (because they are bad at towers), who cry about others "using the system that is currently in place."

"Hey, it's unfair that you're 'using the system that is currently in place' when I choose to use the system that is currently in place differently."
It's just another argument where bad players come together and complain because the good players are doing something that they can't do. It happens in every other area of Graal, nothing to see here. Nothing is stopping them from towering to 5000 hours (although I'm sure it'd take them like two years, which is hilarious), just like nothing should stop anyone from towering to 1000 hours.

Fire Surge · 07-29-2014

Posted by Thallen

Yes, you stated it 100% correctly.

The active towerers are "using the system that is currently in place," a system that has been implemented by staff to encourage towering, which it's doing a great job of. I think the rewards are structured pretty well after the GIF change.

Then we have certain crybabies, who aren't capable of "using the system that is currently in place" (because they are bad at towers), who cry about others "using the system that is currently in place."

"Hey, it's unfair that you're 'using the system that is currently in place' when I choose to use the system that is currently in place differently."
It's just another argument where bad players come together and complain because the good players are doing something that they can't do. It happens in every other area of Graal, nothing to see here.

If the rewards are "structured pretty well", then why do you keep recycling guilds instead of making one guild go to 5k? You probably already have 5k total hours spread across all of your guilds. Come on Thallen, surely you want to take advantage of this greatly structured system!

Thallen · 07-29-2014

Posted by Fire Surge

If the rewards are "structured pretty well", then why do you keep recycling guilds instead of making one guild go to 5k? You probably already have 5k total hours spread across all of your guilds. Come on Thallen, surely you want to take advantage of this greatly structured system!

What's stopping you from towering to 1k hours?
What's stopping you from towering to 5k hours?

I don't think you understand the argument. You answer my questions, then I'll answer yours. We can compare how stupid your answers looks when compared to mine. Actually, I'll not only give you my answer. I'll give you every possible answer that comes to mind. Think long and hard, because you're stepping into a trap!

Fire Surge · 07-29-2014

Posted by Thallen

What's stopping you from towering to 1k hours?
What's stopping you from towering to 5k hours?

I don't think you understand the argument. You answer my questions, then I'll answer yours. We can compare how stupid your answers looks when compared to mine. Actually, I'll not only give you my answer. I'll give you every possible answer that comes to mind. Think long and hard, because you're stepping into a trap!

Thallen, I barely play anymore, but I'm still very aware of everything going on on the game. I spend probably 5 minutes online every other day. I don't have the time to even help a guild, let alone lead my own. I understand your argument perfectly. I would think you realize that it contradicts itself. If the 5k reward is worth it then why does nobody go to 5k, Thallen? Honestly, think about it. Why do people make 5 1k guilds instead of making one go to 5k? It speaks for itself. It isn't worth it. Only an idiot would pick 2 hats over 5, even if one of the 2 is animated.

You're a fan of spar rewards right? Let's say that streaking rewards are made. If you get a 20 streak you get 200 gralats. If you get a 100 streak, you get 500 gralats. Assuming a player can get both streaks, what would you do? Get the 100 streak with 500 gralats, or do 5 20 streaks for 1,000 gralats?

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Colin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,204	It wasn't rage lmao it was me making sure you understood clearly no one really cares now I am leaving to go do other things you are not worth the discussion good bye

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Fulgore Python Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,894	There isn't a "wrong" system of tower rewards and there isn't a "right" one, there are differing ones. I agree with Colin that there isn't anything wrong with the system, noone is being hurt by it, I don't see reason to change. The so called "hat-chasers" argument isn't even worth explaining anymore and aside from that there isn't a reason for the change.

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Craftz New Age Legacy Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graal Posts: 1,633	What is so funny about his post?

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Santa Claus Scrubs. Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: I live in space Posts: 2,272	LMAO

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GOAT Hyrule Knights Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In your head 24/7 Posts: 6,348	The towering system that is currently in place is fine, but what is causing problems to some players might be the way players are using the system that is currently in place. If you change the hrs required for people to get hats, i dont think it will stop people from hat chasing only prolong their journey a lil bit. Personally I dont have a problem if it changes or stays the same as the only time I go into towers is usually to PK or to buy rare hats like the white halo hat in castle that i didnt have in my collection. The ones that would be impacted the most would probably be the new guilds trying to tower. Theres 7 towers around the map and if 3 are held by 2k+ tower guilds and 3 by hat chasing tower guilds that only leaves the new noob guild with mod tower as the only realistic tower to take.