Posted by Rufus

I don't think that I really enjoyed Brawl as much as I thought I was going to. I don't know why, perhaps there was too much going on.

I absolutely LOVED Melee but I couldn't get into Brawl. No idea why.  

Posted by BboyEatsbacon

I absolutely LOVED Melee but I couldn't get into Brawl. No idea why.

Yes same here, brawl was not that great, melee was still better than brawl.  

I just liked brawl because of Lucario, Pit, and Metaknight. Besides that, melee is way better.  

MK is broken  

Metaknight makes me rage. Same with mewtwo. Most OP characters ever.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Metaknight makes me rage. Same with mewtwo. Most OP characters ever.

I hate to break it to you but Mewtwo is F tier

http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Tier_list  

You clearly then have NEVER seen a dedicated mewtwo user then, sure, he may be like a freakin feather, but learn all his specials (especially the confusion and the flippy one) its absolute destruction and impossible to land hits.

I honestly do not beleve in tiers in melee, there is no tiers, its all about time, and dedication, once you get that, you can easily own people in the top class with a c class or lower character.

Go into brawl and theres teirs, for some characters, such as ganondorf who was my favorite in melee, just all the sudden absolutley sucked and attacks are slow af.  

tier lists have nothing to do with my personal opinion, however i'm hoping i'll have some influence in the next game's metagame. better start posting on smashboards again

if you don't understand how they work that's good for you, don't try to pass them off as being nonexistant. you say i've clearly never seen a dedicated mewtwo player when you've obviously never seen a mewtwo main go up against one of the best players in the game.

tier lists are constantly being updated as the metagame changes, while they are in no way 100% accurate there is a consensus that they are the most ideal ranking given the state of the current metagame

updated brawl tier list with plenty of arguing in the thread  

Is Metaknight really that bad? I never had a problem fighting him. He seemed weaker than a lot of others.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

I honestly do not beleve in tiers in melee, there is no tiers, its all about time, and dedication, once you get that, you can easily own people in the top class with a c class or lower character.

Go into brawl and theres teirs, for some characters, such as ganondorf who was my favorite in melee, just all the sudden absolutley sucked and attacks are slow af.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. At all.  

A slime from dragon quest nine maybe slime stack

Kirbys too op <3

Oh and profesor layton i wanna see get his hands dirty  

Posted by Tyler

Is Metaknight really that bad? I never had a problem fighting him. He seemed weaker than a lot of others.

I can defeat a Pit user with him. It's all about how to use his moves.  

Posted by Tyler

Is Metaknight really that bad? I never had a problem fighting him. He seemed weaker than a lot of others.

At a casual level he's still pretty good due to the fact that he has a strong KO move with no startup frames (down smash), four recovery moves (as well as five jumps and a glide), and his neutral B (mach tornado) has priority over most moves and he can't be knocked out of it.

At the highest level, he's the best character in the game because of the above reasons and the fact that most of his moves are near-instant and with little cooldown so there is little risk if you miss. He has the most options in any given situation, up until recently he has been the most used and most successful character in tournaments. He has the best matchups in the game as well (obviously) His up B (the one where he spins in a circle then glides) is both lighting fast, has super armour for a few frames (means he takes no knockback) and has such extreme knockback you can KO most characters at around 40% provided you're both airborne.  

In SSB5 they should add Sasuke, with his abilities and stuff from Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3. That game was the bees knees, man.

Should I be concerned if my best character is Jigglypuff?  

Posted by Pazx

At a casual level he's still pretty good due to the fact that he has a strong KO move with no startup frames (down smash), four recovery moves (as well as five jumps and a glide), and his neutral B (mach tornado) has priority over most moves and he can't be knocked out of it.

At the highest level, he's the best character in the game because of the above reasons and the fact that most of his moves are near-instant and with little cooldown so there is little risk if you miss. He has the most options in any given situation, up until recently he has been the most used and most successful character in tournaments. He has the best matchups in the game as well (obviously) His up B (the one where he spins in a circle then glides) is both lighting fast, has super armour for a few frames (means he takes no knockback) and has such extreme knockback you can KO most characters at around 40% provided you're both airborne.

I guess I'd have to play someone who really knows how to use him to see what you mean. I get the instant attacks thing though. I won a tournament in high school with Marth and no one played as Meta Knight.