This would make the KOTH system incredibly unfair...  

Uh sorry I was unclear. I meant hours as in hours the guild has been alive, like how old it is, not gaining hours as in tower hours.

So guilds that are older and have been around longer can get more players so guild that have just been made this week can't get 45 or 50 members.  

Posted by Mr.$imons

This would make the KOTH system incredibly unfair...

^This  

Posted by Higbey

Uh sorry I was unclear. I meant hours as in hours the guild has been alive, like how old it is, not gaining hours as in tower hours.

So guilds that are older and have been around longer can get more players so guild that have just been made this week can't get 45 or 50 members.

Still dpesnt matter it is unfair  

I dont understand... Any guild could get The extra spaces they just have to be around for a long enough time, basically earn it via experience, ... Plus now guilds just use allied sub guilds to get over 25 players, so how is it more unfair than the way it is now?  

People said that King of the Hill promotes what is known as "Noob recruiting"... And if this gets accepted.. This is more than enough proof it does...

I think people accept King of the Hill for what it is now... But don't get me wrong... This will affect alot of guilds in a bad way..  

That's why i suggested a anti noob recruiting system making it so you can only recruit one member per 30 minutes, except when the guild is just being made. This would make it so you rely more on your guild members than rely on noob recruiting/temping, it could be added by Twinny, he is so good a simple system like this would be possible for him to add, but I doubt staff will want it since so many staff guilds use temping and noob recruiting.  

Posted by Higbey

That's why i suggested a anti noob recruiting system making it so you can only recruit one member per 30 minutes, except when the guild is just being made. This would make it so you rely more on your guild members than rely on noob recruiting/temping, it could be added by Twinny, he is so good a simple system like this would be possible for him to add, but I doubt staff will want it since so many staff guilds use temping and noob recruiting.

So all new guilds can noob recruit as much as they want to within the first 24 hours while others can only recruit one every 30 minutes?

Nah..  

Not 24 hours, I was just thinking I'd need to have some sort of setting because of people complaining that they got a guild and recruited one person and need to wait 30 minutes to get another person and so on just to get started.

Plus if a guild noob recruits it could only do it that first start, of they delete and remake the guild every day then they won't be accumulating tower hours.  

Tower guilds wouldn't have much of an advantage over each since every tower guild would have the ability to recruit many members. It's just a matter of who has more people online at one time.

KOTH is not just about quantity. I know from experience that you can defend castle with few skilled players against many unskilled players, but only to a certain extent. thats when it becomes a matter of quantity. So it's about how many GOOD players you have compared to the other guild(s) really.

This idea is good for family guilds such as Ch4rM because we like having new members, yet we don't want to kick old, unactive members to recruit the new person.  

Posted by Higbey

That's why i suggested a anti noob recruiting system making it so you can only recruit one member per 30 minutes, except when the guild is just being made. This would make it so you rely more on your guild members than rely on noob recruiting/temping, it could be added by Twinny, he is so good a simple system like this would be possible for him to add, but I doubt staff will want it since so many staff guilds use temping and noob recruiting.

I dont think thats such a good idea, especially for tower guilds. If your guild is losing the fort you can just stand by and watch because you cant get a tag  

I find myself giving AF1 tags every 5 minutes or so at night; being limited to one recruit every 30 minutes would be horrific.  

Why would you need to recruit people? Just recruit the members for your guild, and keep them, if you kick them then you don't want them back right away anyway.

If your kicking to make room and recruiting new members every five minutes then your noob recruiting which is abuse of the guilds system. That's why this needs to be added to stop that and make tower taking fair and fun.  

Most tower guilds have all the permanent members in the sub guilds and they recruit only the online people to the main guild. If you had to keep them in forever, that would ruin this system. Also, Higbey's idea about older guilds getting 50 members is also kind of dumb... who cares how old the guild is? I made my guild in April of 2010 and i definitely don't need 50 spaces for people, it's just for friends. Being able to buy spaces sounds nice, but in reality it would be kind of pointless, and i can see tons of people complaining. Some things should just stay the same.  

Posted by Higbey

Why would you need to recruit people? Just recruit the members for your guild, and keep them, if you kick them then you don't want them back right away anyway.

If your kicking to make room and recruiting new members every five minutes then your noob recruiting which is abuse of the guilds system. That's why this needs to be added to stop that and make tower taking fair and fun.

From what I posted above, I actually AM recruiting members from sub guilds. In AF1 last week, we got over 450 hours on the Facebook server. At one point we had over 45 members and allies on. We have a ton of active members who come on and off throughout the day, so no, I'm not "noob recruiting".

Noob recruiting isn't even abusing the guild system in the first place. Many tower taking guilds noob recruit as a way to find new permanent members. Nothing wrong with that.