Graal Kingdoms on Facebook - 4

XENA* · 10-20-2013

GK is really fun

especialy if you play with friends

I'll play for sure!

Aeko · 10-21-2013

Hi PumaD,

I respect your opinion no matter how much flaws are in it or how 'dumb' it is, however let me try and help you understand some things.

Posted by PumaD

I was there online everyday, being active, for 4 months working with Nico together.

lol.

Posted by PumaD

Every snapshot I posted in this thread is from Kingdoms PC by the way...

Very useful in a thread about facebook GK. -clap-

Posted by PumaD

To my statement about Delteria iPhone being a total disappointment.. can't you see players opinions and reactions because of you and your team keep setting a release-date and then changing it again? I'm pretty sure most of the players were really sad and disappointed, this shows your lack of interests into players I guess? If you can not control push backs by Stefan or unixmad, you maybe should stop telling people an incorrect release date.

Why are you attacking delteria at all to begin with? What happened to him not having a good opinion on GK because he isn't staff and knowing all the ins and outs? Why do you suddenly have the right to judge a yet to be seen server?

Posted by PumaD

iGK's development - of course you have no clue what's going on there because it's not public and there aren't a lot of staff working for it right now because of limited spots. So, I won't take this any offensive, I mean hey, we don't post every updates and tweaks we do.

Why is it not public? Lmfao, what limited spots? Why would you not post the updates and tweaks for the incredibly loyal fan-base to see?

As far as development, there is still nothing with any real content. New items aren't content, it's just filler. How do you get these items? Progression? Maybe quest rewards? Nah. Lets host them off in random item raffles, or random event boxes, or random buried bags, or random event prizes. Hell, if you know the right people, just USD it from them.

GK is quickly becoming the Gambling Kingdom (delete it this time nico

)

Posted by PumaD

And if you really think Nico didn't do any improvements on Kingdoms.. please open your eyes. Before Tig resigned the usual/average playercount was near to zero, and now it is around 15-20(averagr) and hits 30-40 player online at same time, which is a quiet success. Not to mention the Nihil Coins shop, which got a xxxxx-amount of Gelats spent in its first week. Now, already xxxxxx Gelats were spent for those coins only.

Which improvements did Nico develop? He doesn't hold any dev skills. Managing...? He's known for trying to entice people to work for him with money. But hey, Esteria turned out great under him...and iZone...right? And those are the only ones I know about that he's been involved in lmao.

If you even try to criticize GK as of late on the official forums, Nico will delete your posts.

(And fyi, GK has almost ALWAYS had a playercount of ~5-16 players, with up to 40 during events)

I wont even get into the grammar of your thread, I'll just shoot back this incredibly ironic statement.

Please, keep posting those replies without thinking before you type and making it only worse for yourself

optimuswhat · 10-21-2013

If it'll be on iOS then I'll play.
But what I'm hearing from these posts, you better balance things out.

G Fatal · 10-21-2013

What does Kingdoms have to offer that the current ios servers/upcoming ios server doesn't?

PumaD · 10-21-2013

Oh Aeko, I see you are still mad.. you didn't even care to read the thread/replies closely.

@optimus: Those people (except Albus) did never mind to play the game activly, especially not after NicoX got the management, as in the usual flamers/crying or whatever you want to call it. Yes, it has its problems but those problems are being worked on, and the game is getting more friendlier for new players. It really isn't hard to get it as it used to be.

@Gricey: Especially the PvP content is, for me. You can join a kingdom and be a part of it (roleplay, too). You can craft things, you can do quests, you can do alchemy and many more.. It's kind of unique, so is its style. I suggest yoi try playing it instead of having someone explain it since it'll be a better experience. You don't even need a Gold subscription on Graal PC to play it (only to message people without limits.. :| ).

Aeko · 10-21-2013

Posted by PumaD

you mad

Didn't expect much more.

PumaD · 10-21-2013

Posted by Aeko

Didn't expect much more.

I didn't expect anything else from you aswell.
To be honest I'm currently not near a PC device so I'm just too lazy to type the [quote myself, however I will give you a reply when I am able to. But you obviously just came here to reply because your reply on another forums has been deleted - for whatever reason. I'm asking you to stop it, because this server shouldn't be trashed and bashed as another iOS server did here.

As in, stay fair and square.

I will you give one reply since I think you got me wrong and my comment would look confusing to you. I did not judge neither did I 'attack' the Delteria server, players were disappointed by its push backs of release dates. That happened more than once. I explained this before, and you even had to quote it. If I would want to make it look bad I would say 'the graphics on it look like as if some 8th grade made them' (use of other words), as someone else said once.

WarrLordd · 10-21-2013

Hi, jumping on graphical content can you please show us an example of GraalKingdoms graphics that been freshly made?

Not using a old template that was already on there. Something fresh that hasn't been seen before? Maybe a new baddie or a mount?

Torankusu · 10-21-2013

Puma did not post screenshots of iGK.

The tileset for iGK has been cleaned up and improved on quite a bit (albeit, I would have taken a completely different approach to what was presented to us...).

As far as a mobile / PC comparison, iGK is not structured in the same way, while the characters and some images are the same, iGK is essentially a fresh start that the PC version needed because of poorly adopted systems (see: Crossfire...).

On another note, this thread was intended for the announcement of GK for Facebook, and has strayed far off topic.

Aeko · 10-21-2013

Posted by PumaD

I didn't expect anything else from you aswell.
To be honest I'm currently not near a PC device so I'm just too lazy to type the [quote myself, however I will give you a reply when I am able to. But you obviously just came here to reply because your reply on another forums has been deleted - for whatever reason. I'm asking you to stop it, because this server shouldn't be trashed and bashed as another iOS server did here.

As in, stay fair and square.

I will you give one reply since I think you got me wrong and my comment would look confusing to you. I did not judge neither did I 'attack' the Delteria server, players were disappointed by its push backs of release dates. That happened more than once. I explained this before, and you even had to quote it. If I would want to make it look bad I would say 'the graphics on it look like as if some 8th grade made them' (use of other words), as someone else said once.

I replied cuz I like MD :I
The fact that my reply was deleted on the other forums just makes it all that much sweeter

I don't know what iOS server you're referring to, but if you can't even defend your server against critism [trashing and bashing], in what way does it deserve to be respected? People have made plenty of points, and the most I've seen is "Yea I see that I guess, but so? Play. "

Am I not playing fair and square enough with you? Sorry.

Of course you didn't judge Delteria...

"...all I can promise it won't be as disappoiting as iDelteria is."

Because you didn't get it when you wanted, the entire server and all of the work the servers staff has done (on a large amount of actual content no less) should be judged as disappointing and whatever else you have to say about it? lol entitlement.

So lets have some actual questions and see if you can respond to them.

Is there anything new in Facebook graal that players can actually enjoy?

Any word on actual (progressing/game changing/core) updates, instead of more 'random item prize' events/updates?

What are some recent tweaks that you think helped players that were not random item balances?

When do you think (in a broad term) Facebook GK will be released, and why will players play it (If you have no idea, why announce?)

Torankusu · 10-21-2013

Posted by Aeko

When do you think (in a broad term) Facebook GK will be released, and why will players play it (If you have no idea, why announce?)

In all fairness, Puma didn't create this thread. He just confirmed that GK Facebook was in fact going to be released.

He did, however, unnecessarily bash iDelteria, which is a shame, because as small of a community as graal is (especially PC graal), there is no need to talk badly about other members trying to develop content (for free, at that!).

Puma, you have no respectable talents, and would benefit greatly from tucking your tail between your legs and refraining from posting.

PumaD · 10-21-2013

@Warrlord:
There are new craftable items which have been made freshly. Also, new baddies/mobs are in work and will be released soon.

@Aeko:
I don't count your reply as critism, really. I mean, you never actually played the server after Nico became the manager of it, did you? You can't really creatize something you never tried out. And I have tried to reply to everyones post, trying to show that there are changes. It's not the server it used to be, it's not the server you claim it to be. And back to my statement about Delteria, is was and still is a disappointment to/for the community. If you cared to read threads activly, you would get this yourself.
To your questions, Facebook Graal is not new, there is a FB-Application for iZone,iEra and iClassic. However this Facebook Application will connect you to the PC Server of Graal Kingdoms. This means it'll be absolutely free to play.
Actual Updates? Yes. The important updates are those which allow new players to be part of the game without having a hard time. A new map will be released soon, and new sets of items are in progress.

I can't tell you when the Facebook server will be out, but sijnce the beta testing has already started and everything but a Playerlist was done last time I heard about it, I would say 1-2 months. But, as said, I can't tell.
Why should you play it? I don't have any clue. But I can tell you why I play it. I enjoy the Player vs Player point of the game. You can duel (spar) others or you can just be an ass and kill people randomly, using weapons, swords, bows or magic spells. Even the leveling was/is fun, no matter how long it took me max one of my statistics. The original reason for me to play it was because it was some kind of 'new' to me. And especially the graphics caught my attention. I still enjoy playing it activly whenever I have time, and especially if the playercount is high.

WMS · 10-22-2013

Posted by XENA*

GK is really fun

especialy if you play with friends

I'll play for sure!

Lol you work with pumaD don't you...

Aeko · 10-22-2013

Posted by PumaD

@Warrlord:
There are new craftable items which have been made freshly. Also, new baddies/mobs are in work and will be released soon.

@Aeko:
I don't count your reply as critism, really. I mean, you never actually played the server after Nico became the manager of it, did you? You can't really creatize something you never tried out. And I have tried to reply to everyones post, trying to show that there are changes. It's not the server it used to be, it's not the server you claim it to be. And back to my statement about Delteria, is was and still is a disappointment to/for the community. If you cared to read threads activly, you would get this yourself.
To your questions, Facebook Graal is not new, there is a FB-Application for iZone,iEra and iClassic. However this Facebook Application will connect you to the PC Server of Graal Kingdoms. This means it'll be absolutely free to play.
Actual Updates? Yes. The important updates are those which allow new players to be part of the game without having a hard time. A new map will be released soon, and new sets of items are in progress.

I can't tell you when the Facebook server will be out, but sijnce the beta testing has already started and everything but a Playerlist was done last time I heard about it, I would say 1-2 months. But, as said, I can't tell.
Why should you play it? I don't have any clue. But I can tell you why I play it. I enjoy the Player vs Player point of the game. You can duel (spar) others or you can just be an ass and kill people randomly, using weapons, swords, bows or magic spells. Even the leveling was/is fun, no matter how long it took me max one of my statistics. The original reason for me to play it was because it was some kind of 'new' to me. And especially the graphics caught my attention. I still enjoy playing it activly whenever I have time, and especially if the playercount is high.

Very good, you're getting close to making an almost informative post.

you never actually played the server... You can't really creatize something you never tried out

And back to my statement about Delteria, is was and still is a disappointment...

neat.

No, I havent played GK in a long while. I've visited a few times since nico's become manager, nothing seemed different but tigbot and the trade level.

You assume I don't read things actively

I simply dont post. Looking back at your posts, it looks like you take shots at Delteria most any chance you get. xP

I know facebook graal is not new.

I did not know that they were free to play completely. Ty for something informative. Again, new items are hardly actual content, teasing a new map is nice I suppose, hopefully more than a few tiny towns and a pk area. :9

Estimating that the server would be out in 1-2 months answers my question, thank you.

As for enjoying the PvP aspect, there isn't much point in that unless you grind your way to a good, if not quite high physical level is there? Magic was rarely used in spars when I played, I can only wonder if that's changed since.

WarrLordd · 10-22-2013

Maybe you are right delteria is disappointing with it's release date, but aside from that kingdoms has been claiming it's far better, why isn't there any released public content showing how it's changed from the already existing pc system it already used for years.

All i hear is new events, joining kingdoms the same old stuff..

Is there a new GUI interfact? Does facebook/pc gui matches with IOS?
Since players love the simple 8th grader type of graphics how will IGK match that and try to compete with classic/iera.
I mean kingdoms is free now on pc client and yet 8th grader (only calling it this cause you did) graphics on zodiac has a much larger player base.
Be warned izone tried mixing the two graphics style together and look how that turned out.

Poll Results: Will you be playing?
29.87%	Yes
42.86%	No
27.27%	Maybe
Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll

10-20-2013	46
XENA* Former iEra Staff Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,722	GK is really fun especialy if you play with friends I'll play for sure!

10-21-2013	48
optimuswhat Speed Demon Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,288	If it'll be on iOS then I'll play. But what I'm hearing from these posts, you better balance things out.

10-21-2013	49
G Fatal Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,215	What does Kingdoms have to offer that the current ios servers/upcoming ios server doesn't?

10-21-2013	50
PumaD donald trump'd Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,438	Oh Aeko, I see you are still mad.. you didn't even care to read the thread/replies closely. @optimus: Those people (except Albus) did never mind to play the game activly, especially not after NicoX got the management, as in the usual flamers/crying or whatever you want to call it. Yes, it has its problems but those problems are being worked on, and the game is getting more friendlier for new players. It really isn't hard to get it as it used to be. @Gricey: Especially the PvP content is, for me. You can join a kingdom and be a part of it (roleplay, too). You can craft things, you can do quests, you can do alchemy and many more.. It's kind of unique, so is its style. I suggest yoi try playing it instead of having someone explain it since it'll be a better experience. You don't even need a Gold subscription on Graal PC to play it (only to message people without limits.. :\| ).

10-21-2013	53
WarrLordd paused Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 468	Hi, jumping on graphical content can you please show us an example of GraalKingdoms graphics that been freshly made? Not using a old template that was already on there. Something fresh that hasn't been seen before? Maybe a new baddie or a mount?

10-21-2013	54
Torankusu Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Zol's Pub Posts: 373	Puma did not post screenshots of iGK. The tileset for iGK has been cleaned up and improved on quite a bit (albeit, I would have taken a completely different approach to what was presented to us...). As far as a mobile / PC comparison, iGK is not structured in the same way, while the characters and some images are the same, iGK is essentially a fresh start that the PC version needed because of poorly adopted systems (see: Crossfire...). On another note, this thread was intended for the announcement of GK for Facebook, and has strayed far off topic.

10-22-2013	60
WarrLordd paused Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 468	Maybe you are right delteria is disappointing with it's release date, but aside from that kingdoms has been claiming it's far better, why isn't there any released public content showing how it's changed from the already existing pc system it already used for years. All i hear is new events, joining kingdoms the same old stuff.. Is there a new GUI interfact? Does facebook/pc gui matches with IOS? Since players love the simple 8th grader type of graphics how will IGK match that and try to compete with classic/iera. I mean kingdoms is free now on pc client and yet 8th grader (only calling it this cause you did) graphics on zodiac has a much larger player base. Be warned izone tried mixing the two graphics style together and look how that turned out.