Are admins just using the title for bragging rights?

DragonRider · 11-17-2011

If you don't want to read this massive wall of text, scroll down the the bottom of the post.

Well, I'm not much of a Classic player. On Era, none of the staff members (I think) are allowed to set the "friends can only PM" option. Well, on Classic, let's say I needs staff members help. On Era, I PMed Tricxta asking, "Where is the Halloween shop?" and he gave a response immediately. But if I try to PM a staff member on Classic, oh looky! Friends can only PM! Thats great right? What I'm trying to say is, help the players! If Era staff members can endure the spam, I'm sure you guys could to! If a player has a question, answer it! Don't set Friends can only PM! That pisses the s**t out of me and it makes me want to smash the staff member in the face with a metal baseball bat. A lot of staff take this tag for granted and use it to give their friends special privileges. If staff members are supposed to be helpful and friendly, why do they block out any normal player's mean of communicating them? Thanks for reading, and I hope you'll heed my advice.

If you scrolled down, here: disable "PM from friends only". It pisses me off to no end and it makes the staff members look unhelpful.

Cat612 · 11-17-2011

Well Era has considerably less players, and PR's are "Player Relations" meaning they're supposed to interact with players, while GP's are just supposed to moderate the community.

Rexx · 11-17-2011

I dont think they use it for bragging rights

But I agree with youre text...Matt in that staff application thread said that GP's are also player relations, yet I dont see how because they always have friends only pm on..
I understand admins get a ton of pm's but they should be open to questions and help..if someone becomes problematic they can just block the person.

it comes off as them expressing their superiority like they dont have time to waste on you, more than it is bragging or arrogance.

Maikeru · 11-17-2011

You do realize their job is not to PM players with help right?
If you ever need help with anything, its best to contact them through email instead of begging them to take that off (Due to the constant spam of useless questions/suggestions everyday). And don't give me some bs reason like "Not much players know whats email" because i can guarantee you that everyone in Graal classic has an email!

WarrLordd · 11-17-2011

Wow then http://statistics.graal.us/server/ranking been lieing to me all along

callimuc · 11-17-2011

Posted by Cat612

Well Era has considerably less players, and PR's are "Player Relations" meaning they're supposed to interact with players, while GP's are just supposed to moderate the community.

False

Posted by Matt

Your job as Gp will also include Player Relations.

Taken from the GP hiring on iClassic by Matt.

Tyler · 11-17-2011

You don't understand though. They have to deal with tons of reports and patrolling and the people that pm them can ask stupid questions just to talk to them. If the player has a problem with another player, report them. If a player has a question for an admin, contact them by email or take a chance of getting a reply from [email protected]. I honestly haven't seen admins abusing their power except the one who used to work for Graal, Ed.

WarrLordd · 11-17-2011

Oh were back on topic. Well i love to see you reply to 100+ players at a time and most are just.

Player: Hello
Admin: Hi
Player: I need help please
Admin: Ok sure i'll help you
Player: Can you warp to me
Admin: Ok in a sec
Player: Omg thanks for coming
Admin: NP
Player: Can you drag me in top of the building with you please so i can get a picture and show my friends.

Izarin · 11-17-2011

Sadly, Warrlord is right. A lot of players just want stupid things, and how do the staff know if the majority of players will ask something reasonable or not? I know that sometimes Staff turn friends only off, and put it in their status so that if players need something, they can ask. Maybe there should be something like showguild, except for showing staff with "friends only" pm off. But I know that it would probably be extremely hard or impossible to do, although I'm not a scripter, so I'm guessing. But if it was possibly, it could be put into the top of the news or the feedback blurb.

Prince Charming · 11-17-2011

Posted by WarrLordd

Player: Hello
Admin: Hi
Player: I need help please
Admin: Ok sure i'll help you
Player: Can you warp to me
Admin: Ok in a sec
Player: Omg thanks for coming
Admin: NP
Player: Can you drag me in top of the building with you please so i can get a picture and show my friends.

^This.

I have never set my PM status to friends only. If you ever need help in game, PM me (Prince Charming).

Also, including your question in the first pm along with your greeting speeds up the process much faster.

Cheers,
The Prince.

Rexx · 11-17-2011

Posted by Izarin Rofocale

Sadly, Warrlord is right. A lot of players just want stupid things, and how do the staff know if the majority of players will ask something reasonable or not? I know that sometimes Staff turn friends only off, and put it in their status so that if players need something, they can ask. Maybe there should be something like showguild, except for showing staff with "friends only" pm off. But I know that it would probably be extremely hard or impossible to do, although I'm not a scripter, so I'm guessing. But if it was possibly, it could be put into the top of the news or the feedback blurb.

if there was such a command that would mean it would have to show which admins are online which would defeat the purpose of them having removed showadmin because hackers were checking when it was safe to hack..

WarrLordd · 11-17-2011

Believe it or not but using feedback/reports will get you a much quicker respond instead of personal pm. Some admins will be busy handling one issue while another admin can act to the feedback/reports.
It's there for a reason use it.
We like to deal with issues not become friends or chit chat.
Honestly players believe that chit chatting with a admin means it's doing something for the community it's not, they didn't hire admins for that.

Shaun · 11-17-2011

Some admins are really helpful. I PMed WarrLordd yesterdayand he replied a few seconds later.

Loakey_P2P · 11-17-2011

there is an ignore option for a reason , if a player is really bugging the staff they can ignore that one person but its not right to be unreachable cause there may be a serious issue . 9 out of 10 there isn't a lot of staff on at the same time . i get irritated when i go on and get hit over and over with selling this or buying this , so i just ignore the whole damn player list .

Izarin · 11-17-2011

Posted by Rexx

if there was such a command that would mean it would have to show which admins are online which would defeat the purpose of them having removed showadmin because hackers were checking when it was safe to hack..

I'm just throwing out suggestions. I, being clueless about scripting, hope nobody thinks I'm an idiot for this comment, but could they make it show any admins that have "Friends only" pm off, even if the admin is offline?

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DragonRider here and there Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3,619	Are admins just using the title for bragging rights? If you don't want to read this massive wall of text, scroll down the the bottom of the post. Well, I'm not much of a Classic player. On Era, none of the staff members (I think) are allowed to set the "friends can only PM" option. Well, on Classic, let's say I needs staff members help. On Era, I PMed Tricxta asking, "Where is the Halloween shop?" and he gave a response immediately. But if I try to PM a staff member on Classic, oh looky! Friends can only PM! Thats great right? What I'm trying to say is, help the players! If Era staff members can endure the spam, I'm sure you guys could to! If a player has a question, answer it! Don't set Friends can only PM! That pisses the s**t out of me and it makes me want to smash the staff member in the face with a metal baseball bat. A lot of staff take this tag for granted and use it to give their friends special privileges. If staff members are supposed to be helpful and friendly, why do they block out any normal player's mean of communicating them? Thanks for reading, and I hope you'll heed my advice. If you scrolled down, here: disable "PM from friends only". It pisses me off to no end and it makes the staff members look unhelpful.

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Cat612 Scientist Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,491	Well Era has considerably less players, and PR's are "Player Relations" meaning they're supposed to interact with players, while GP's are just supposed to moderate the community.

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Rexx User Registered Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,626	I dont think they use it for bragging rights But I agree with youre text...Matt in that staff application thread said that GP's are also player relations, yet I dont see how because they always have friends only pm on.. I understand admins get a ton of pm's but they should be open to questions and help..if someone becomes problematic they can just block the person. it comes off as them expressing their superiority like they dont have time to waste on you, more than it is bragging or arrogance.

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Maikeru Quack Quack~ Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,810	You do realize their job is not to PM players with help right? If you ever need help with anything, its best to contact them through email instead of begging them to take that off (Due to the constant spam of useless questions/suggestions everyday). And don't give me some bs reason like "Not much players know whats email" because i can guarantee you that everyone in Graal classic has an email!

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WarrLordd paused Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 468	Wow then http://statistics.graal.us/server/ranking been lieing to me all along

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Tyler Dark Desert Fox Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States, Ohio Posts: 5,720	You don't understand though. They have to deal with tons of reports and patrolling and the people that pm them can ask stupid questions just to talk to them. If the player has a problem with another player, report them. If a player has a question for an admin, contact them by email or take a chance of getting a reply from [email protected]. I honestly haven't seen admins abusing their power except the one who used to work for Graal, Ed.

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Izarin Registered Idiot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: If you're reading this, don't look around. Posts: 313	Sadly, Warrlord is right. A lot of players just want stupid things, and how do the staff know if the majority of players will ask something reasonable or not? I know that sometimes Staff turn friends only off, and put it in their status so that if players need something, they can ask. Maybe there should be something like showguild, except for showing staff with "friends only" pm off. But I know that it would probably be extremely hard or impossible to do, although I'm not a scripter, so I'm guessing. But if it was possibly, it could be put into the top of the news or the feedback blurb.

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Shaun MysTe Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: US Posts: 1,199	Some admins are really helpful. I PMed WarrLordd yesterdayand he replied a few seconds later.

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Loakey_P2P Is not here right now ... Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 58	there is an ignore option for a reason , if a player is really bugging the staff they can ignore that one person but its not right to be unreachable cause there may be a serious issue . 9 out of 10 there isn't a lot of staff on at the same time . i get irritated when i go on and get hit over and over with selling this or buying this , so i just ignore the whole damn player list .