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iHot · 03-13-2013

Posted by Ramaz Adelphos

Jester is still the word of reason he is the white Martin Luther king jr

Jester is black and his grandfather is MLK Jr. Asshole.

GlazeyB · 03-13-2013

Posted by Jester Lapse

I've said it once, I'll say it again. Not every item is supposed to be obtainable by everyone in Graal. It's just a fact, Stefan and Stefane has to make their money somehow.

While I agree with you that every item shouldn't be obtainable by one person. The way they go about it however, is stupid. You should be rewarded through an accomplishment, not bugging mommy and daddy for money to spend.

Jester Lapse · 03-13-2013

Never said I agree with how Stefan does things, just said it was a fact of running a business. At the end of the day, Stefan and Stefane want some income and if you were in their shoes, you would too, let's be honest. Children are easily exploitable, just pure fact. Again I don't agree with said methods, but they are effective for obtaining the result they want, income.

iHot · 03-13-2013

Posted by Glazey

While I agree with you that every item shouldn't be obtainable by one person. The way they go about it however, is stupid. You should be rewarded through an accomplishment, not bugging mommy and daddy for money to spend.

Graal relies on the stupidity of children to make money. God forbid Stefan will try and make money.

GlazeyB · 03-13-2013

Posted by Jester Lapse

Never said I agree with how Stefan does things, just said it was a fact of running a business. At the end of the day, Stefan and Stefane want some income and if you were in their shoes, you would too, let's be honest. Children are easily exploitable, just pure fact. Again I don't agree with said methods, but they are effective for obtaining the result they want, income.

Never said you agreed with him, only pointing a fact that there are better ways of doing so. I've pointed this out to Stefan before development of iZone started. It's effective for obtaining a income, but in the long run it's bad business.

Posted by iHot

Graal relies on the stupidity of children to make money. God forbid Stefan will try and make money.

Graal doesn't have too, that's the point. God forbid they actually make a smarter business decisions.

iDigzy · 03-13-2013

Everything on iZone is over priced. While some items should be, ex bar on era and pbp. There are many other items on era instead, however with iZones income it takes about 1-2 weeks to get 5-8k. Relying 100% on pay to win.

iRobot · 03-13-2013

Posted by iDigzy

Everything on iZone is over priced. While some items should be, ex bar on era and pbp. There are many other items on era instead, however with iZones income it takes about 1-2 weeks to get 5-8k. Relying 100% on pay to win.

Yes. The way to make money and the pricing of things have to be directly PROPORTIONAL. iEra is easy to make money, leading to more expensive things. izone has a new way of making money, and that is by effort. Yes it is a pay to win, but u also have to put in a lot of effort to get money, which iEra and iClassic has

Posted by iRobot

Yes. The way to make money and the pricing of things have to be directly PROPORTIONAL. iEra is easy to make money, leading to more expensive things. izone has a new way of making money, and that is by effort. Yes it is a pay to win, but u also have to put in a lot of effort to get money, which iEra and iClassic has

Sorry typo.... Which iEra and iClassic doesn't have

GlazeyB · 03-13-2013

Posted by iRobot

Yes. The way to make money and the pricing of things have to be directly PROPORTIONAL. iEra is easy to make money, leading to more expensive things. izone has a new way of making money, and that is by effort. Yes it is a pay to win, but u also have to put in a lot of effort to get money, which iEra and iClassic has

iZone's system is terrible, pay to win, and bull****.

imSupah · 03-13-2013

Posted by Glazey

iZone's system is terrible, pay to win, and bull****.

Glazey, why can't you be the manager? I can imagine so many good things coming to Zone that will make the player-count rise if you were.

GlazeyB · 03-13-2013

My mouth.

imSupah · 03-13-2013

Posted by Glazey

My mouth.

Yet, you are speaking the truth. Oh well. Back to my imagined iZone owned by Glazey..

iHot · 03-13-2013

Posted by iAmSupah

Glazey, why can't you be the manager? I can imagine so many good things coming to Zone that will make the player-count rise if you were.

Glazey is too ambitious. While some of his ideas may work he fails to realize it all just won't happen over night.

Posted by Glazey

iZone's system is terrible, pay to win, and bull****.

iEra is also pay2win. If by the slim chance you ever do become manager or even a member of the iZone staff team, you can't change the pay2win system completely it's something players will have to deal with. Although I agree that the server shouldn't be this strong a form of pay2win if it takes you obscene amounts of time to get money.

GlazeyB · 03-13-2013

Posted by iHot

Glazey is too ambitious. While some of his ideas may work he fails to realize it all just won't happen over night.

iEra is also pay2win. If by the slim chance you ever do become manager or even a member of the iZone staff team, you can't change the pay2win system completely it's something players will have to deal with. Although I agree that the server shouldn't be this strong a form of pay2win if it takes you obscene amounts of time to get money.

You do realize I know if I do somehow end up in Matt's position, it'll be a bitch to make a comeback? Even if I was offered the position, I would most likely turn it down as it seems like Matt has to get Stefan's approval on most things. This is probably why updates haven't been going out as much as it needs to be, I simply cannot do it that way. I would require full control.

Why can't I change the Pay2Win system? Because Stefan says so?

iDigzy · 03-13-2013

Posted by iHot

iEra is also pay2win. .

Hell to the no. You can dig 1k in 5-10 minutes vs izone 1k in 1-2 days

iHot · 03-13-2013

Posted by Glazey

You do realize I know if I do somehow end up in Matt's position, it'll be a bitch to make a comeback? Even if I was offered the position, I would most likely turn it down as it seems like Matt has to get Stefan's approval on most things. This is probably why updates haven't been going out as much as it needs to be, I simply cannot do it that way. I would require full control.

Why can't I change the Pay2Win system? Because Stefan says so?

So as many posts suggest you'd have to be in some sort of iZone Deity position? Lol. Anyways the pay2win system can't change as remanants of it will always remain. Unless the economy is actually changed to point where you can make a substantial amount of money in a decent amount of time (which is REALLY hard to do) it's staying as pay2win.

Posted by iDigzy

Hell to the no. You can dig 1k in 5-10 minutes vs izone 1k in 1-2 days

Still in Era the more you pay the more you win.

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Jester Lapse zzz Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WA USA Posts: 9,232	Never said I agree with how Stefan does things, just said it was a fact of running a business. At the end of the day, Stefan and Stefane want some income and if you were in their shoes, you would too, let's be honest. Children are easily exploitable, just pure fact. Again I don't agree with said methods, but they are effective for obtaining the result they want, income.

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iDigzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 439	Everything on iZone is over priced. While some items should be, ex bar on era and pbp. There are many other items on era instead, however with iZones income it takes about 1-2 weeks to get 5-8k. Relying 100% on pay to win.

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GlazeyB Nyanpasu Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,878	My mouth.