Posted by Shock

Spawn kill issue? If the ROF is decreased, all you have to do is dodge. If we follow your suggestions, the Pbp will be more then less of what it should be. It won't be worth the 125k that people pay for it. You'd rather the Pbp shoot like a KSG for the same price.

yes you have a spawn protection time and it effects all guns except for shotguns. Is the m4 worth the 55k? is the famas worth the 30K? is the m4 attachment worth 45K? is the KSG worth 75k? If it was overpriced who cares, era over prices everything. No it would not even be remotely close to a KSG since a KSG deals 4 damage per shot and has 2 shots = 8 damage. What im thinking is more of a shipkia. a freeze and rof of shipkia and 8 damage perfectly reasonable. Still would be better than shipkia sincce it has a much wider spread and can hit 4 targets all dealing 8 damage instead of 2.  

Posted by Era News

You can't just Nerf a freaking gun that players have bought, instead, make the other guns better then they were so nobody can whine. I mean when you buy a car in real life the car dealers can't come to your house and make it **** can they? That's illegal and stupid. Instead they bring out newer models that beat the older ones or the modify old ones to beat other old ones. Stop saying Nerf weapons because its unfair on people who have spent hard earned money on them.

But if you make the other guns better then PBP owners will whine saying they want their easy kills back without everyone else doing the same.  

thats why you nerf pbp

judging from this thread, there is definatly enough support to nerf pbp  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

thats why you nerf pbp

judging from this thread, there is definatly enough support to nerf pbp

Your idea of a nerf is too extreme. The shipka rate of fire is too high for any shotgun. Maybe, just maybe someone should fix the respawn bug associated with shotguns. If its such a big deal, complain about that getting fixed.

Shotguns should take you out in a number of close up hits, but not all at once. Just nerf the ROF, fix the respawn issue with shotguns and call it a day.

I think that idea of decreasing the damage when the bullets get out of a certain range might help for all shotguns, as others have said. Idk if I was against it, but it makes complete sense.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No because you will still have the shotgun spawnkill issue, still would be a issue because mass amounts would still use pbp and tbhat would not help. The only way to get people to stop using a gun is to nerf the damage

REALLY Hard earned money? Only about 3% of pbp users actualy worked for pbp. The rest just used mamas credit card

O my freaking god, facepalm x300000 "mamas credit card" is still freaking hard earned money.

Posted by lord greg

But if you make the other guns better then PBP owners will whine saying they want their easy kills back without everyone else doing the same.

They can't whine at all.

Anyway I think it's fine how it is, I myself don't own one and couldn't give a crap how much they spam it. Stop crying.

Posted by Shock

Your idea of a nerf is too extreme. The shipka rate of fire is too high for any shotgun. Maybe, just maybe someone should fix the respawn bug associated with shotguns. If its such a big deal, complain about that getting fixed.

Shotguns should take you out in a number of close up hits, but not all at once. Just nerf the ROF, fix the respawn issue with shotguns and call it a day.

I think that idea of decreasing the damage when the bullets get out of a certain range might help for all shotguns, as others have said. Idk if I was against it, but it makes complete sense.

I say don't touch it and increase the other weapons potential. Or refund everyone and get rid of the gun al together  

I have a question for the pbp users: does it ever get boring? i mean killing almost everyone you see in a matter of seconds and only being killed by other bars and pbps?
just wondering :0  

pbp isnt that hard to fight against, especially with M4, just keep moving, and stay away from close range gun fights with PBP. wasnt PBP already nerfed once?  

it just got a tiny rof nerf THAT DID NOTHING.

Posted by Shock

Your idea of a nerf is too extreme. The shipka rate of fire is too high for any shotgun. Maybe, just maybe someone should fix the respawn bug associated with shotguns. If its such a big deal, complain about that getting fixed.

It is not extreme at all, why? simple, thats how it was before, and it needs to go back to that. The only thing wrong with the spawn kill issue is that it gets annoying and it makes boosting super easy.

Posted by Shock

Shotguns should take you out in a number of close up hits, but not all at once. Just nerf the ROF, fix the respawn issue with shotguns and call it a day.

hey the rof was nerfed and guess what? that didn't do jack didly squat, there still just as bad as they were before. Im telling you, it needs to go back to no stacked damage and 8 damage and a lowered freeze rate to shipkia.

Posted by Shock

I think that idea of decreasing the damage when the bullets get out of a certain range might help for all shotguns, as others have said. Idk if I was against it, but it makes complete sense.

no then shotguns will still be horrid to deal with. Im sorry to say it, but your ideas to nerf the pbp have not helped.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

it just got a tiny rof nerf THAT DID NOTHING.


It is not extreme at all, why? simple, thats how it was before, and it needs to go back to that. The only thing wrong with the spawn kill issue is that it gets annoying and it makes boosting super easy.



hey the rof was nerfed and guess what? that didn't do jack didly squat, there still just as bad as they were before. Im telling you, it needs to go back to no stacked damage and 8 damage and a lowered freeze rate to shipkia.


no then shotguns will still be horrid to deal with. Im sorry to say it, but your ideas to nerf the pbp have not helped.

I simply disagree with you and I feel your argument is invalid. You're entitled to your own opinions and views of my statements too. Agree to disagree with me. It's not like our bickering is making any staff member move faster. Lmao.  

How is it invalid? give me proof. Look, you got your way of a ROF nerf and that did nothing. Since this failed miserably i say revert shotguns back the way they were. Im well aware that this will not make staff go any faster rofl. Also i think your forgetting one major thing. This is graal where weapons make 0 sense. A 7.62mm gun deals less damage(AK47) than a 5.56mm gun(m4). So its okay for shotguns to make no sense and follow there logic.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

How is it invalid? give me proof. Look, you got your way of a ROF nerf and that did nothing. Since this failed miserably i say revert shotguns back the way they were. Im well aware that this will not make staff go any faster rofl. Also i think your forgetting one major thing. This is graal where weapons make 0 sense. A 7.62mm gun deals less damage(AK47) than a 5.56mm gun(m4). So its okay for shotguns to make no sense and follow there logic.

I stated an opinion. Stop whining. And I haven't noticed any ROF change.

I just said bickering won't solve anything. We disagree, let it go.  

Why not add in a new mechanic to guns? Bullet distance.
Basicly how far the bullet travels until it dissapears. Guns might have strategy to them. idk.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

This is graal where weapons make 0 sense. A 7.62mm gun deals less damage(AK47) than a 5.56mm gun(m4). So its okay for shotguns to make no sense and follow there logic.

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Omfg its a LMG, its SUPPOST to spam.

huh  

Posted by Sup3rn00b

Why not add in a new mechanic to guns? Bullet distance.
Basicly how far the bullet travels until it dissapears. Guns might have strategy to them. idk.

They already do, but it's a long distance. If you stand at one end of the bridge and shoot up/down, the bullet makes 1/4 of the way. If you were to make this smaller, it probably still wouldn't have any affect in lethal, for example. It'd work in Tachi and Terisu, though - since they've got plenty of roaming space.  

Think the distance is one level or so maybe 1.5