Meph suggested we could create a petition for being against the over powered guns. Maybe this would work.
(PBP, Souizen and the BAR.)

If you want these guns nerfed, simply post "I agree to this petition and believe the guns stated above should be nerfed" or something similar.  

"I agree to this petition and believe the guns stated above should be nerfed"

ps. nerf the shipka too  

*But asking for specific guns to be nerfed is ridicoulous, as that is all what you guys are losing against to. The bar,shipka,pbp,souizen are high-priced, so have to be 'better' (stats-wise) then other guns. Remember the m4 was hella OP for almost 2 years. And they didn't nerf it because players would cry, but finally did.
Ask for a better gun balance, not nerfs.(If all guns are good...its better than have some good guns, some bad guns).
I'd like perfect gun balance rather than nerfs on so called 'op' guns.  

We just would end up with tons of players complaining that their guns got nerfed.
It´d be a scam in my opinion. (Making them pay 100-200k for a good gun and nerf it after)
So no.  

No thanks  

Posted by Ozzy Magus

I agree.

*But asking for specific guns to be nerfed is ridicoulous, as that is all what you guys are losing against to. The bar,shipka,pbp,souizen are high-priced, so have to be 'better' (stats-wise) then other guns. Remember the m4 was hella OP for almost 2 years. And they didn't nerf it because players would cry, but finally did.
Ask for a better gun balance, not nerfs.(If all guns are good...its better than have some good guns, some bad guns).
I'd like perfect gun balance rather than nerfs on so called 'op' guns.

No, no.. did you read my thread ? That is (in my opinion) the best way to fix this, just make the difference smaller.

Posted by Layerd

We just would end up with tons of players complaining that their guns got nerfed.
It´d be a scam in my opinion. (Making them pay 100-200k for a good gun and nerf it after)
So no.

And they would be given a partial refund  

Posted by Engel

No, no.. did you read my thread ? That is (in my opinion) the best way to fix this, just make the difference smaller.

How I see it;
If all guns were op/good, it'd be better. Now like layerd said, nerfing high-tier guns is ?eh. I mean you understand why the bar is 'better' (stats-wise) than a m4? 50k//200k.
Nerfing does not help IMPO, buffing all the low-tier guns, to challenge high-tier guns is what it should be.(because than it'd be a question of style/preference, people that do not have 200k would use a m4, and people that like the bar (clip,dmg etc...) would use the bar)).


*Well I disagree if this wasn't what you mean, then.  

Just no.

Those who are wanting the shipka, PBP, BAR, and souizen are usually those who don't have one. It may seem unfair losing to a BAR or PBP when you're using a M4 or a Sten, but theirs a big difference in price as well, typically a higher price is better quality.
So instead of complaining about how losing to a BAR or PBP is unfair and how you don't have one because you don't have the money to buy gralat packs with real money, just earn yours through the game itself. It may seem like it takes a long time to earn a BAR through digging or trash picking but it actually doesn't. I've seen people dig for a bar and it took on average 2-3 weeks to do, sure it's time consuming but if the gun will help you out so you fill like you can have fair fights then get started on earning your own. The game isn't fully centered on gralat packs.  

Posted by Graal943

Just no.

Those who are wanting the shipka, PBP, BAR, and souizen are usually those who don't have one. It may seem unfair losing to a BAR or PBP when you're using a M4 or a Sten, but theirs a big difference in price as well, typically a higher price is better quality.
So instead of complaining about how losing to a BAR or PBP is unfair and how you don't have one because you don't have the money to buy gralat packs with real money, just earn yours through the game itself. It may seem like it takes a long time to earn a BAR through digging or trash picking but it actually doesn't. I've seen people dig for a bar and it took on average 2-3 weeks to do, sure it's time consuming but if the gun will help you out so you fill like you can have fair fights then get started on earning your own. The game isn't fully centered on gralat packs.

no, but digging for three weeks straight isn't really "fun". Okay then I got a bar- but spamming that thing is literally the last thing I want to do... I don't even think it's fun 0.0  

Posted by Engel

no, but digging for three weeks straight isn't really "fun". Okay then I got a bar- but spamming that thing is literally the last thing I want to do... I don't even think it's fun 0.0

Any sort of work isn't "fun", it was never meant to be "fun" nor will it ever be "fun". Digging is a way of earning your items without wasting money on a game.

And no one said anything about spamming the BAR really, but it does have a high fire rate and a low freeze, and it is 10 damage, but the gun is 200K gralats. Not all players technically "spam" the bar every second they use it anyways.  

Posted by Graal943

Any sort of work isn't "fun", it was never meant to be "fun" nor will it ever be "fun". Digging is a way of earning your items without wasting money on a game.

And no one said anything about spamming the BAR really, but it does have a high fire rate and a low freeze, and it is 10 damage, but the gun is 200K gralats. Not all players technically "spam" the bar every second they use it anyways.

No, but a game is supposed to be fun, and killing your thumbs by digging three weeks straight is just bull****. And I know what digging is, thanks.

I do now then- the bar does spam. Read my thread how it should be in my opinion.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...erpowered+guns  

No.

They aren't even really 'overpowered' I die just as easily as someone with an m4  

Or reduce the price of BAR, shipka and PBP and buff the underpowered guns  

I'd rather have lots of cheaper guns then I few "OP" ones. So I sign the petition also  

Posted by Layerd

It´d be a scam in my opinion. (Making them pay 100-200k for a good gun and

Scamming is legal,

"I agree to this petition and believe the guns stated above should be nerfed"

Im so damn tired of people that are bad hiding behind there bars and pbp thinking they are so pro when they use a overkill gun.