Personally I don't enjoy how Enderman act in 1.8. A large portion of the "griefing" that seems to be reported is actually done by an Enderman. I have the ability to disable their griefing globally now, and I personally think this is the best route until the next generation of Enderman are released. I want to know your thoughts on this before anything is done however, so vote in the poll and post your comments  

So nerfing a mob is okay, but adding /back apparently ruins the game despite the fact nobody that doesn't want to use it is effected? Unless you somehow are negatively effected by players like me having fun.  

Posted by Higbey

So nerfing a mob is okay, but adding /back apparently ruins the game despite the fact nobody that doesn't want to use it is effected? Unless you somehow are negatively effected by players like me having fun.

This thread has nothing to do with having a /back command, you have your own thread to discuss that.  

Sorry. I'm just a little angry about it not being added.

Anyway, when you say stop endermen griefing does that mean just stoping the block moving and placement, or stopping the spawning of endermen alltogether?  

I would have to say yes, because we already have Creeper griefing off.  

Posted by Higbey

Anyway, when you say stop endermen griefing does that mean just stoping the block moving and placement, or stopping the spawning of endermen alltogether?

It disables their ability to pick up blocks, but they pop up and chill around the world.  

Just out of curiosity, what was the reasoning behind you guys saying no? (Not trying to be rude at all!)  

I think creeper as well as endermen effects should be on. Having them off is lame, it's like cheating. We need a little challenge.  

Posted by Kuujoe

I think creeper as well as endermen effects should be on. Having them off is lame, it's like cheating. We need a little challenge.

Mob spawning is broken. Too many times I have had creepers spawn right inside my very lit house. Do you know how many times I would have had to rebuild my house just because mob spawning is broken?

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Endermen don't really even work properly. Their only purpose for existing is not only to grief buildings, but to also make the world insanely ugly. The world is peppered by dirt blocks, holes in the ground and trees, and even caves/strongholds have had endermen spawn inside and ruin the walls and floor. All endermen do right now is make the world look like it was generated with a spraypaint tool. Don't forget even Notch is changing them, 1.9 is just taking a long time.  

Dusty this is off topic but your texture pack is very nice...  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

I would have to say yes, because we already have Creeper griefing off.

Creeper griefing is not a factor, what you are talking about is creeper destorying  

Posted by reyalS

Creeper griefing is not a factor, what you are talking about is creeper destorying

Chance of an enderman actually returning a block it took is pretty low, considering they don't drop them on death or when agro.  

This IS a vanilla server right? Then that means if you wanna keep it vanilla, keep all the mobs and their abilities. But I don't really care. Change it to how you see fit.  

Posted by DragonRiderSux

This IS a vanilla server right? Then that means if you wanna keep it vanilla, keep all the mobs and their abilities. But I don't really care. Change it to how you see fit.

"Survival", not vanilla. It's been far from vanilla about 15 installed mods ago.  

Posted by DragonRiderSux

This IS a vanilla server right? Then that means if you wanna keep it vanilla, keep all the mobs and their abilities. But I don't really care. Change it to how you see fit.

The problem is that SMP is a broken, unattended to, method of play. The hit detection and prediction Minecraft uses for mobs and PvP makes it almost impossible to approach mobs in the same way you would offline, in particular, Creepers. They can explode from 10 blocks away given the right circumstance of lag. It's just unfair to lose work because a little bit of lag.

Also, Endermen are just annoying right now. As Jonus noted, even if you kill them they don't drop the block they stole. There is no way of combating them, meaning in their current state they're just another matter of annoyance that add nothing to the game(ps they're kind of broken). In 1.9 they're "fixed" so there probably won't be much need to mod them out. Also, they were supposed to be a fairly rare mob, yet I see more than 3 groups every night around our village. One fly by around the server with creative mode and you'd see they're not so rare by all the damage they do to the terrain. Hell, you'd probably see it just by going in a cave system or stronghold, seeing all the odd and end blocks scattered about.

The idea here is to make the game a bit more enjoyable by alleviating the "broken" aspects. I don't agree with say, warping(at least in this manner), but I don't feel it's ruining my enjoyment of the game either.