Posted by Jones

Honestly, your going to bash the whole british army like that? And if i remember the U.S led the attack and canada and britian sent troops to help. your not helping them fight, they are helping you.

You sound like Fox News (worst news station) when they bashed the canadian army too. And then they go and cover it up saying it was just a joke.

You should honestly just shut up too and respect all the men and women who are serving for your country and mine.

Telling someone to shut up doesn't really get your point across. You don't seem to understand what I said, I was just saying that since world war 2 and the united state's emergence as a super power, all of Europe's armies have drastically dwindled because of their reliance on the United States. These wars America is fighting are in both of our interests, and since European countries have dwindled their armies, in a sense, we are fighting for your best interests as well. And fox news? Seriously? I'm not covering anything up. I'm putting my facts on the table. Why don't you instead of insulting me?

Posted by Imprint

I never said that healthcare and food stamps should be tosse around to every bum with hunger pains. But, there are people who have lost their job or something else who need a crutch to get back ontheir feet.

Also maybe, just maybe, spending even more money for even more government planned institutions isn't the answer. Thats why I hate Obama's policies, all they are is just spend, spend spend. Expanding the government is not how this nation was designed.  

I'm watching one of Romney's speeches right now on CBS. He's not a bad public speaker, though all he's doing is appealing to the masses. So far he hasn't said a word on his future plans; he's just been sweet talking the crowd.  

#RomneyRyan2012  

Posted by Talon

I'm watching one of Romney's speeches right now on CBS. He's not a bad public speaker, though all he's doing is appealing to the masses. So far he hasn't said a word on his future plans; he's just been sweet talking the crowd.

Stated his plan to create 12 million jobs  

[QUOTE=Pimpsy G.;190044]Telling someone to shut up doesn't really get your point across. You don't seem to understand what I said, I was just saying that since world war 2 and the united state's emergence as a super power, all of Europe's armies have drastically dwindled because of their reliance on the United States. These wars America is fighting are in both of our interests, and since European countries have dwindled their armies, in a sense, we are fighting for your best interests as well. And fox news? Seriously? I'm not covering anything up. I'm putting my facts on the table. Why don't you instead of insulting me?

Ok now your talking more sense. Because what you said before made it seem like you were impling britian had practiclly no army at all(go reread what u said) And yes The united states has emerged as the biggest superpower after the collapse of the sovie union. But Britian had only reduced their army because they didnt see the need to have more than around 120,000 troops. Simply because there wasnt any pending threat of a war on a scale like the world wars. Also they moved more funding towards their S.A.S program, who were in fact the pioneers of the counter terrisom tactics used by all special forces units around the world. And maybe u remember the conflict in Lybia, the majority of the airstrikes were launched by Canadian, British and French fighter jets.

My reply about the fox news and them covering up didnt mean that u were covering up anything. That example was because fox described the canadian army as pathetic and they could mind as well just invade us. Not that i was saying thats what YOU meant, but how it was similar in a sense that u called the bristish army soo small that it practically does nothing. We forget that this is the internet and its impossible to read emotion without being face to face which leds to alot of misperception. But when u wrote that, it certainly seemed to my point of view that you were disrespecting the british army completely.

Posted by Chaotic

Stated his plan to create 12 million jobs

How is going to do this exactly?  

First of all, I want to start out by saying that asking this question to a group of people where the majority are too young to vote is kind of silly.

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Also maybe, just maybe, spending even more money for even more government planned institutions isn't the answer. Thats why I hate Obama's policies, all they are is just spend, spend spend. Expanding the government is not how this nation was designed.

This nation was founded over 200 years ago with a much smaller chunk of land, a smaller populous, and way different beliefs and ideals. If we were still living how this nation was designed I'd probably come home from a hard day's work to a meal made by slaves, slap my wife around when she got out of line, and probably die before I was 40.

Government spending isn't as bad as you think it is. Government spending provides us with things like police, firefighters, schools, roads; the list goes on and on with services that I'm sure you have used in the past or will use in the future.  

24% goes to defense contracts. All of these services now were regulated much much long ago. The Internet shaped how we acted.



http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/...nding_2012USrn

We spend 24% on fighting small countries with little or no aid and terrorists huddled caves.

* Total Spending $3.8 trillion *
* Pensions $0.8 trillion *
* Health Care $0.8 trillion *
* Education $0.2 trillion *
* Defense $0.9 trillion *
* Welfare $0.5 trillion *  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Also maybe, just maybe, spending even more money for even more government planned institutions isn't the answer. Thats why I hate Obama's policies, all they are is just spend, spend spend. Expanding the government is not how this nation was designed.

As I said before you can't bash the money we spend on government services when we are spending massive funds daily on useless war.  

Posted by MSM

Eh. Well, the thing is, when Obama was elected, they say he made a lot of mistakes. Some of those mistakes were made by George Bush, and when Obama was elected, he inherited those mistakes and everyone blamed Obama. I feel that if we elect Obama this time, he will have learned from his mistakes.

He put the country in 6.5 trillion worth of debt, every other president from George Washington, to the 2nd bush all combined only put the country in 6.3. I rest my case  

This is going to sound harsh, but Romney's a crazy man with no grounding in life as a regular person, all of his major sponsors are banks because they know he won't mess with taxes, he'll make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
If he gets into government, the U.S is going to pay, big time.  

Posted by RenoDorvay

This is going to sound harsh, but Romney's a crazy man with no grounding in life as a regular person, all of his major sponsors are banks because they know he won't mess with taxes, he'll make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
If he gets into government, the U.S is going to pay, big time.

Basically  

Posted by NCJohn

I don't know if some of the members of this forum are mature enough to talk politics, let alone know enough to hold an intelligent political conversation.

I'm one of those mature members... I'm on Barack Obama's side because I feel like Romney is a rude, rich guy who only cares about rich people. According to some of his speeches that I actually listened to, it seems like he wants to make life for the richer easier, and life for the poor harder.

Posted by Dimentio

Neither, Obama made empty promises...
And I don't really support Romney either.
It's all about the biggest liar.
I thought about Ron Paul, but I'm not sure about him either.

The only reason some people don't like Obama is because they don't realize that he was forced to make mistakes because of the mistakes that George W. Bush left him with to handle.

Posted by RenoDorvay

This is going to sound harsh, but Romney's a crazy man with no grounding in life as a regular person, all of his major sponsors are banks because they know he won't mess with taxes, he'll make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
If he gets into government, the U.S is going to pay, big time.

Agreed 100%  

To be honest, I don't think either of them are the right man for the job. Obama had his chance to get us out of the recession, create more jobs, but instead he tried to install Obamacare, which nobody even asked for voting him into office. Last election, I thought Obama was the right man for the job. This time around, I don't feel like he is.  

Posted by Imprint

As I said before you can't bash the money we spend on government services when we are spending massive funds daily on useless war.

"Government services" wow, that way of putting it actually makes them sound productive-- or like actual services! Do you know how many federal government agencies there are? Its ridiculous. Look up how the federal education system works, its so ridiculously complicated and cumbersome you wouldn't believe it, and its like that for everything. Don't even get me started on the DPS. Spending money on 'useless' war does not translate in any way to the idea that its okay for us to spend even more money to fixing the economy. I don't even know why you're using that as a point, its completely off topic. Were talking about fixing the economy and whether the government should be larger or smaller, not if money spent on war, or if it is "useless" or not. Thats a completely different type of political debate. And I think calling it completely useless is a little extreme.  

Pimpsy, spending money on the war effects the economy of the united states directly so what he said is actually right on point