Its something we've all probably heard of that The Hobbit stroke up recently this year. Art vs. Technology. Its been a long war in cinema between the two since cinema began almost a century ago. Originally cinemas were made for technological purposes. People came to see "Moving pictures", and the story was to keep them there. That's why movies before were so simple and bland. Eventually it wore off, like everything does, and we began to come towards the "art" era for cinematography for the next 70 or so years.

Recently though with the rise of 3D and now 48fps, the big screen is going back to its technological appeal to combat things like Netflix and the internet, that are stealing their tickets. But 48fps has an issue. People feel as if its a direct to video movie, or a sitcom. The "Immersive quality" seems to make not the movie look more real but make the actors on a set, look like actors on a set. Not a movie. So the question is, what do you think about 48 fps? Are you for the art aspect, or technological advancement? Do you think people will get used to it? If you haven't seen 48fps yet don't assume anything though. You will be surprised how significant it is for film. You can go to your local Walmart and look at the TV's that upscale their movies to get a good idea as to what it, well really, "feels" like.  

Um I've always perceived a movie to be a movie ever since I can remember. 3D or this 48fps you are talking about hasn't changed that for me. And I'll always prefer going to the theater than paying Netflix for their crappy catalogue of movies.  

movies on dvd should really start supporting nvidia 3d. well I guess idc since I rarely watch movies but when I do I get them free. But yes, 48 fps is better makes it smoother  

Posted by Rexx

Um I've always perceived a movie to be a movie ever since I can remember. 3D or this 48fps you are talking about hasn't changed that for me. And I'll always prefer going to the theater than paying Netflix for their crappy catalogue of movies.

This thread is just talking about 48fps itself and its place in the industry. If you have seen 48 fps, even if its upscaled, you probably would understand what I'm talking about.  

Movies seem fine the way they are now, and I have heard that higher fps movies tend to not "feel right." Not to mention it requires more work when you have twice as many frames to fill. Sure, that's not applicable to cameras, but when you consider how much post-work goes into films you realize that the people on the bottom rung are going to get a lot more work their way, making their monotonous job even moreso.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

This thread is just talking about 48fps itself and its place in the industry. If you have seen 48 fps, even if its upscaled, you probably would understand what I'm talking about.

I've see the Hobbit trailer several times in the theater and it looks great like everyone would expect a Peter Jackson film would. I think to the masses it's just a passive thing, nobody really notices or cares.
And I don't see what's wrong if someone wants to make their movie in 48fps, just because it's against the nature of movie making or something, the critics can shove it.  

Posted by Rexx

I've see the Hobbit trailer several times in the theater and it looks great like everyone would expect a Peter Jackson film would. I think to the masses it's just a passive thing, nobody really notices or cares.

No, its not. Theater projectors dont support 48 fps. It was downscaled to the regular 24. You haven't seen it, trust me, you need to see it to be in this debate. People definitely notice, a lot.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

No, its not. Theater projectors dont support 48 fps. It was downscaled to the regular 24. You haven't seen it, trust me, you need to see it to be in this debate. People definitely notice, a lot.

Well then please tell me where I may see it, and okay then that still means since its being downscaled in theaters anyways So who cares.  

Posted by Rexx

Well then please tell me where I may see it, and okay then that still means since its being downscaled in theaters anyways So who cares.

Its a monumental shift for cinema, its a big deal really... people are going to convert their projectors to use 48fps for this movie. All it takes for them is a simple download so you will see it there. You can see it on newer models of televisions that upscale movies to 48fps. Just go to your local Walmart and if they have a section where all the different brands of tvs are shown displaying images, find the one that has that weird look with a seemingly higher framerate. Thats what it looks like. My friend has an upscaled TV, its really hard to watch movies on it without getting a headache.  

720p  

You think that's bad? Look at the new HDTVs. The higher framerate on the new HDTVs is a result of motion interpolation, which basically guesses which frames should be in between other frames in order to boost up the framerate. It causes some weird artifacts occasionally that look like bizzare unhuman motion and usually makes a movie look more like a soap opera because of the sampling rate. 120 hz TV's with motion interpolation look so ****ing weird.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Its a monumental shift for cinema, its a big deal really... people are going to convert their projectors to use 48fps for this movie. All it takes for them is a simple download so you will see it there. You can see it on newer models of televisions that upscale movies to 48fps. Just go to your local Walmart and if they have a section where all the different brands of tvs are shown displaying images, find the one that has that weird look with a seemingly higher framerate. Thats what it looks like. My friend has an upscaled TV, its really hard to watch movies on it without getting a headache.

Maybe some theaters will, and maybe some will just downscale it because they don't like the way it looks.  

Gotta say I prefer 24fps. 48fps seems too artificial.  

Posted by stetson

720p

720p is referring to the resolution in pixels aka how clear the image quality is, not the rate at which the screen is refreshed(fps,frames per second.). 720p might mean 1280x720 in pixels, which means 1280 pixels wide and 720 pixels tall. Pixels are the squares of color onscreen.  

I noticed htis with the avengers, I couldn't get over how weird it seemed to watch. I cant imagine when avatar 3 & 4 come out because they are planned to be filmed in 60 fps