Towers

Bin · 06-10-2012

Need serious revision. I thought things would be better when Takaii got 1k, but Takaii broke into Inspired and Serene.

So here's what the tower situation looks like:

Castle: Characters Japan 24/7
Swamp: Chain of Memories 24/7
Deadwood: Cruxis Evolution 24/7
Sardon's: Inspired (Takaii) 24/7
Snow: Serene (Takaii) 24/7

What this means is that the only towers left in play for regular guilds are MOD and York, the easiest towers to take and lose. By regular guilds, I mean guilds that play this game how it is supposed to be played and don't schedule tower-taking shifts like it's a real job.

I'm dead serious when I say that something needs to be done about the tower situation. A few guilds are truly running the fun for the rest of everyone.

Which is troubling. Because on this server, there are no quests, and there are only so many hats to buy. So what's left? Sparring and taking towers. Well, Stefan and admins, by preserving the status quo of towers, you make it impossible for any guilds besides CJ, COM, Cruxis, and Takaii to get any serious tower hours.

Something must be done. Make towers easier to take. For example, CJ members respawning in the same place they died in Castle is ******ED and really provides no fighting chance.

By not changing or improving the tower situation, you are sucking the fun out of this game. And for what? To benefit four guilds and piss off everyone else? Ridiculous.

Tyler · 06-10-2012

Castle: Characters Japan 24/7
Swamp: Chain of Memories 24/7
Deadwood: Cruxis Evolution 24/7
Sardon's: Inspired (Takaii) 24/7
Snow: Serene (Takaii) 24/7

These are sad, but true. I was against changing the towers at first, but now it's impossible for guilds to even take one without a crap load of members which most of the time are newbies looking for a guild. I guess I wouldn't care for tower changes as long as it's not as stupid as MoD where the stair case up to your fort is blocked when you spawn near it. I really didn't like that.

MattKan · 06-10-2012

Well, those guilds have rose to power. Tbh I'd rather see harder towers that you actually have to think and work together to take, so get together with your guild and start planning. There's allies for a reason. Get to know other guilds and maybe even have meetings on Skype or something. Think of strategies to take the tower and keep it rather than "go down" or "stay up". The towers all have a reasonable size that you could take advantage of if you set your mind to it. Instead of thinking of the new changes as barriers, think of the ways they are an advantage to you. And jump on those opportunities.

Slicing will only get you so far. You need a strategy.

iStorm · 06-10-2012

Rep+ Mattkan! Amazing speech, i salute you!

Craftz Cheese · 06-10-2012

Bin you just cry and complain on here because Voyage is so nooby that you cant get a tower. Get over it.

Santa Claus · 06-10-2012

The thing is CXE, CJ, COM, and NAL are the only guilds really doing anything after 1k.
The others guilds just stop at 1K. We do it because we love towers. we don't do it because we want to be dicks after hats. really if the 4 top guilds end it will start many new guilds ready for 1k. you wouldnt see a change and we do lose it from time to time. just look at the times they get low and take it. i meanly forces on that and attack other towers when i know the time they get low. CXE used to get low at some times but i learned how to fix it and improved it. we rarely get as low as 10 because i mainly forces to fix it and keep it going.

To me to start a guild just to hit 1k is just sad and disrespect to the ones that truly love towers.
Like this Vlad guy started 4 tower guilds on facebook for hats i think 4 idk and now he started Serene for another hat. that is just stupid and sad.

Pazx · 06-10-2012

Hey Bin, go be friends with Liz from EM or something. I'm sure you could get something going there. Or find Nerv or some other guild that's struggling against the big 3 guilds, and work something out with them.

twilit · 06-10-2012

Posted by Santa Claus

The thing is CXE, CJ, COM, and NAL are the only guilds really doing anything after 1k.
The others guilds just stop at 1K. We do it because we love towers. we don't do it because we want to be dicks after hats. really if the 4 top guilds end it will start many new guilds ready for 1k. you wouldnt see a change and we do lose it from time to time. just look at the times they get low and take it. i meanly forces on that and attack other towers when i know the time they get low. CXE used to get low at some times but i learned how to fix it and improved it. we rarely get as low as 10 because i mainly forces to fix it and keep it going.

To me to start a guild just to hit 1k is just sad and disrespect to the ones that truly love towers.
Like this Vlad guy started 4 tower guilds on facebook for hats i think 4 idk and now he started Serene for another hat. that is just stupid and sad.

^^^Words of Wisdom, brought to you by: Santa Claus.

ya. ive basically classified tower guilds into these catergories:
-CXE, CJ, CoM, NAL, (and sorta VG): these guilds have a lot of hours but keep going (except vg), and they arent all "pr0" nor snobby. Kudos to you for determination!
-Admin guilds: hate 'em k? staff should do their job, not sit at towers. admin guilds also get easy 1k bc theyre popular just from fact of being admin. luckily, there arent any towering currently.
-Hat Hunters guilds: ya these guilds are full of hat hunters and "pr0s" so they get quick easy 1k, and theyre all in it just for a frikin hat. hate em too k?
-"hmm... idk wat to call this catergory but this is wat towering is supossed to be like": these guilds have strong leaders, and the rest are just commoners who stay loyal and noob recruits. theres no set shift schedules to make it possible to hold 24/7, you just take a tower or two after school. and eventually get 1k. unfortunately, not many exist anymore. but kudos to Nerv for falling under this catergory.
-Noob guilds...

ok im done.

@Matt: Skype for tower tactics?!...... rly?....... RLY?.....

Imprint · 06-10-2012

Towers are ****ed up in general:

Castle:
-Defenders respawn next to flag while attackers spawn outside. Even guilds with low members can defend easily like that.

Mod:
-Bottleneck in center. Most of the time you get up with .5 health because you stand around slashing on the stairs which is no fun.

Snowtown
-Like castle, defenders spawn too close to flag for the tower to be difficult.

Deadwood
-Bottleneck on stairs, a guild can send defenders to stairs and no one can get by.
-Cluster**** in flag room, no room to move in flag room so you juat slash until the flag goes down. No skill needed.

Pazx · 06-10-2012

Posted by twilit

@Matt: Skype for tower tactics?!...... rly?....... RLY?.....

Trust me, it is brilliant. You don't need everybody in the guild on skype either, just a few people scattered around the tower (keep one on the roof) and your defense is impenetra****icantspellwaaaaaaaah

G Fatal · 06-10-2012

Towers arn't impossible to take... zZ FATAL Zz used to take towers with only like 4players on against like 12+ our tactic was always pk/attack over and over again as it usually makes most of the top guilds start to play dead or afk and eventually get them tired so we got and could defend from 10+ if they attacked again.

Elusive · 06-10-2012

I believe that any tower can be taken if you put a little effort into it. Serene as far as I am concerned are just attempting to rush to 1000 hours for a hat and acquiring chasers on the way. But they aren't anything special, quite frankly just because some of their members have more PKs than the hairs on your head. Plus complaining on here does no more than pity yourselves, go out there and even if you don't take the tower, give them a hard time keeping it. Starting a Guild and setting a hat as your GP doesn't give you a free ticket to reaching that goal, a certain amount of competition is involved. Voyage have 700 hours at the end of the day and are a prime Guild to enforce this competition for these towers. Focusing on the present tower status rather than fantasizing about your long term goal helps. Work at your own pace and if you believe in your loyal members and put in your own effort you will reach your target.

Characters Japan, Cruxis Evolution and Chain of Memories have earnt their position on the leader-boards and their Guild hours are purely the result of hard work and determination . However I do share the opinion on the users like Vlad and Luvious that they should make a tower guild for their own personal enjoyment, not for another hat to be added to their collection. Above all in my opinion they are the ones that showcase the flaws of a well intended reward system.

This is just my opinion and regardless of whether you agree or not, you should challenge these groups because at the end of the day competition is the heart of the towering..

Dylan · 06-10-2012

Posted by Santa Claus

To me to start a guild just to hit 1k is just sad and disrespect to the ones that truly love towers.
Like this Vlad guy started 4 tower guilds on facebook for hats i think 4 idk and now he started Serene for another hat. that is just stupid and sad.

That's a smart idea, please explain how it's stupid and sad.

Elusive · 06-10-2012

Posted by Dylan

That's a smart idea, please explain how it's stupid and sad.

Ruins the tower aspect of the Game. Recruiting hat chasers to ruin the game for others, not too smart. If he was smart he would have taken the one of the five opportunities to upload a hat he was actually content with..

Credit to Godot, but now serene and other similar hat chasing Guild's have acquired a new nickname: Hat Monkeys!

D-Vader · 06-10-2012

Nerv had an easy enough time taking castle and swamp from what you say is "impossible".

Grow some balls, man up, and find the right times and use strategy.

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Bin Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 217	Towers Need serious revision. I thought things would be better when Takaii got 1k, but Takaii broke into Inspired and Serene. So here's what the tower situation looks like: Castle: Characters Japan 24/7 Swamp: Chain of Memories 24/7 Deadwood: Cruxis Evolution 24/7 Sardon's: Inspired (Takaii) 24/7 Snow: Serene (Takaii) 24/7 What this means is that the only towers left in play for regular guilds are MOD and York, the easiest towers to take and lose. By regular guilds, I mean guilds that play this game how it is supposed to be played and don't schedule tower-taking shifts like it's a real job. I'm dead serious when I say that something needs to be done about the tower situation. A few guilds are truly running the fun for the rest of everyone. Which is troubling. Because on this server, there are no quests, and there are only so many hats to buy. So what's left? Sparring and taking towers. Well, Stefan and admins, by preserving the status quo of towers, you make it impossible for any guilds besides CJ, COM, Cruxis, and Takaii to get any serious tower hours. Something must be done. Make towers easier to take. For example, CJ members respawning in the same place they died in Castle is ******ED and really provides no fighting chance. By not changing or improving the tower situation, you are sucking the fun out of this game. And for what? To benefit four guilds and piss off everyone else? Ridiculous.

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MattKan the KattMan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,204	Well, those guilds have rose to power. Tbh I'd rather see harder towers that you actually have to think and work together to take, so get together with your guild and start planning. There's allies for a reason. Get to know other guilds and maybe even have meetings on Skype or something. Think of strategies to take the tower and keep it rather than "go down" or "stay up". The towers all have a reasonable size that you could take advantage of if you set your mind to it. Instead of thinking of the new changes as barriers, think of the ways they are an advantage to you. And jump on those opportunities. Slicing will only get you so far. You need a strategy.

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iStorm In-game name: iStorm Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Easter Island Posts: 106	Rep+ Mattkan! Amazing speech, i salute you!

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Craftz Cheese Craftz Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 91	Bin you just cry and complain on here because Voyage is so nooby that you cant get a tower. Get over it.

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Santa Claus Scrubs. Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: I live in space Posts: 2,272	The thing is CXE, CJ, COM, and NAL are the only guilds really doing anything after 1k. The others guilds just stop at 1K. We do it because we love towers. we don't do it because we want to be dicks after hats. really if the 4 top guilds end it will start many new guilds ready for 1k. you wouldnt see a change and we do lose it from time to time. just look at the times they get low and take it. i meanly forces on that and attack other towers when i know the time they get low. CXE used to get low at some times but i learned how to fix it and improved it. we rarely get as low as 10 because i mainly forces to fix it and keep it going. To me to start a guild just to hit 1k is just sad and disrespect to the ones that truly love towers. Like this Vlad guy started 4 tower guilds on facebook for hats i think 4 idk and now he started Serene for another hat. that is just stupid and sad.

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Pazx amateur gay Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 3,372	Hey Bin, go be friends with Liz from EM or something. I'm sure you could get something going there. Or find Nerv or some other guild that's struggling against the big 3 guilds, and work something out with them.

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Imprint Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,992	Towers are **ed up in general: Castle: -Defenders respawn next to flag while attackers spawn outside. Even guilds with low members can defend easily like that. Mod: -Bottleneck in center. Most of the time you get up with .5 health because you stand around slashing on the stairs which is no fun. Snowtown -Like castle, defenders spawn too close to flag for the tower to be difficult. Deadwood -Bottleneck on stairs, a guild can send defenders to stairs and no one can get by. -Cluster** in flag room, no room to move in flag room so you juat slash until the flag goes down. No skill needed.

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G Fatal Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,215	Towers arn't impossible to take... zZ FATAL Zz used to take towers with only like 4players on against like 12+ our tactic was always pk/attack over and over again as it usually makes most of the top guilds start to play dead or afk and eventually get them tired so we got and could defend from 10+ if they attacked again.

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Elusive Bazinga Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 575	I believe that any tower can be taken if you put a little effort into it. Serene as far as I am concerned are just attempting to rush to 1000 hours for a hat and acquiring chasers on the way. But they aren't anything special, quite frankly just because some of their members have more PKs than the hairs on your head. Plus complaining on here does no more than pity yourselves, go out there and even if you don't take the tower, give them a hard time keeping it. Starting a Guild and setting a hat as your GP doesn't give you a free ticket to reaching that goal, a certain amount of competition is involved. Voyage have 700 hours at the end of the day and are a prime Guild to enforce this competition for these towers. Focusing on the present tower status rather than fantasizing about your long term goal helps. Work at your own pace and if you believe in your loyal members and put in your own effort you will reach your target. Characters Japan, Cruxis Evolution and Chain of Memories have earnt their position on the leader-boards and their Guild hours are purely the result of hard work and determination . However I do share the opinion on the users like Vlad and Luvious that they should make a tower guild for their own personal enjoyment, not for another hat to be added to their collection. Above all in my opinion they are the ones that showcase the flaws of a well intended reward system. This is just my opinion and regardless of whether you agree or not, you should challenge these groups because at the end of the day competition is the heart of the towering..

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D-Vader RiCE KiNGS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 385	Nerv had an easy enough time taking castle and swamp from what you say is "impossible". Grow some balls, man up, and find the right times and use strategy.