Posted by CM CM

I honestly don't agree with this idea. Guilds like Alumni would clearly have an advantage over every other guild and it kind of ruins the purpose of most towering tactics, such as rushing flag, surrounding flag, defending stairs, defending halls, setting a sub tag to defend in halls, etc. I don't see how this idea at all helps towering. The way I see it, it's basically just promoting guild spar, which isn't a bad idea, but I think you're taking it too far with the whole "having the beat the holding guild to take it." I agree with Craftz: it would pretty much destroy towering because you're taking away so much from towering by adding a guild spar. Towering mainly focuses on attacking the flag or defending the flag, and both of these would be taken away.

Not a lot of people like to guild spar. Some people prefer towering over guild spar. What happens if you completely turn the towering system into a guild spar system? Many people who enjoy towering would probably leave. There would probably also be those seven-eight dominating guilds that will always be hogging a tower (*cough* alumni *cough*) and they probably won't want to recruit anyone who doesn't have a positive spar score.

Almost everyone has experienced some form of towering. It's the second stage in your Graal life, you could say. When you're still a noob, you see towering and your want to get involved and try it out. If towering is forcing you to guild spar, then noobs who are curious about towering probably won't even get to tryout since nobody will recruit them, and if they do happen to get recruited to some kind of noob guild, they're probably be defeated by the current holding guild.

This system is basically just a massive upgrade for sparrers and a very big downfall for current towerers and the current towering system. Hopefully you see why this isn't that great of idea. Guild spar should get more attention, I agree, but not like this.

How does it destroy the whole towering system? A new tower is added for this and the other towers are kept as they are now. How is this any different from the same "arab, delaying, (insert more salt)" guild holding sards 24/7 until they get 1k hours?  

This is a nice idea, but it shouldn't have anything to do with towering.  

Heres the thing, if this system IS implemented then there is no incentive to pk or defend. Player killing stat would be removed from players profiles because nobody would care about them. So far i've only seen maybe two or three alumni members in favor of this idea, which is a little weird. I don't see any motivation to tower if a guild of VPN users (not saying alumni) were to multi tower when all their doing is making the "raiding" guild's odds unfavorable.  

i understand that i disagree with thallen on a lot of things, but i'm pretty sure that everyone can agree with me here when i say this idea is ******ed.

also funny if you read the names of the only people who actually agreed with it:
hikaru, fulgore, eko.
what do these names have in common? (Alumni)
gtfo.  

Posted by yurhomi

Heres the thing, if this system IS implemented then there is no incentive to pk or defend. Player killing stat would be removed from players profiles because nobody would care about them. So far i've only seen maybe two or three alumni members in favor of this idea, which is a little weird. I don't see any motivation to tower if a guild of VPN users (not saying alumni) were to multi tower when all their doing is making the "raiding" guild's odds unfavorable.

I don't think you understand, the current towers would stay meaning people would still care about PKing...

Posted by Comyt

i understand that i disagree with thallen on a lot of things, but i'm pretty sure that everyone can agree with me here when i say this idea is ******ed.

also funny if you read the names of the only people who actually agreed with it:
hikaru, fulgore, eko.
what do these names have in common? (Alumni)
gtfo.

I personally love the idea and this is coming from someone who sucks at sparring. If you're going to say the idea is "******ed" at least give a reason.  

Right, but im thinking on larger proportions. Meaning if all the towers would be affected, not just one.  

Posted by yurhomi

Right, but im thinking on larger proportions. Meaning if all the towers would be affected, not just one.

This is one tower, possibly a different system, I don't see how it would affect PKing and defending at other towers and cause people to not care about PK stats.  

They already did this before though, except you took a tower on how many players you had. Basically it was quantity > quality, they had it on fb server and removed it months later. It was called king of the hill, i thought it was dumb honestly.  

Posted by yurhomi

They already did this before though, except you took a tower on how many players you had. Basically it was quantity > quality, they had it on fb server and removed it months later. It was called king of the hill, i thought it was dumb honestly.

Are you ******ed? First of all, read the post, it's about 1 new tower being added, not all of them being replaced - that means if you don't like that tower, you don't go and try to take it.
And secondly, how does the fb KOTH tower have any relation to guild sparring for a tower?

Let's look at the people that disagree:
Comyt, homi
What do they have in common?
(Sage)
gtfo  

Posted by eko

Are you ******ed? First of all, read the post, it's about 1 new tower being added, not all of them being replaced - that means if you don't like that tower, you don't go and try to take it.
And secondly, how does the fb KOTH tower have any relation to guild sparring for a tower?

Let's look at the people that disagree:
Comyt, homi
What do they have in common?
(Sage)
gtfo

I tried to provide some sort of feedback that would put the mood to this idea, personally, im not in favor of it. I don't know why you're calling me ******ed when I don't mean to have any relevance to comyt's post. It's kinda funny that you got a little upset over a "weird" remark in my post, sucks but it's truth.


OT: I don't think this idea should be implemented just because "it's boring", towering is supposed to be boring especially when you have to be online for those 1k hours. However if this does happen to get attention by dusty or who ever else, just please make a new tower...  

The S in Sage should really be an R.

This idea is great, there is multiple guilds out there that could beat Alumni they aren't gods, it'll bring year round competition to guild sparring,

Also if you think Alumni wants this for an easy hat everyone already knows they could get a 1k guild faster than they could this way and easier so that doesn't make much sense, obviously a spar guild will want new things based around sparring.  

Do you mind Alumni take or steal all the towers? (Maybe not at the same time)
Pretty fun for sparers not fun at all for people who take tower with friends.
I don't think this idea will happen in a while.  

Again, it isn't affecting any current towers, just adding a new one. Learn to read please. (For those that obviously can't based on their replies)  

Posted by eko

Are you ******ed? First of all, read the post, it's about 1 new tower being added, not all of them being replaced - that means if you don't like that tower, you don't go and try to take it.
And secondly, how does the fb KOTH tower have any relation to guild sparring for a tower?

Let's look at the people that disagree:
Comyt, homi
What do they have in common?
(Sage)
gtfo

funny since the entire first page disagreed until i said something then the usual butthurt people-who-know-nothing-about-spar come hating.

funny how eko, blaze, and fulgore all used to talk badly about thallen and (Alumni) when they were in (Deity) and now its turned to relentlessly sucking up to everything he says on the forums (blaze excluded).

funny how eko thinks he's good at sparring too but that's completely unrelated.

will also be extremely funny when this thread derails just because i posted in it and it would be even funnier if this got added.

keep the same towering system, stop trying to change the way things have been on graal for nearly 5 years just to benefit you and your little delaying guild, thallen.

if there's anything that needs to get changed about towering: it's the spawn location of the defenders of sardon's tower.

inb4 huge rage paragraphs, continued sucking up, failed attempts at a clever response, "umad" accusations and the usual unintelligent responses from unknowns.  

Posted by Comyt

i understand that i disagree with thallen on a lot of things, but i'm pretty sure that everyone can agree with me here when i say this idea is ******ed.

also funny if you read the names of the only people who actually agreed with it:
hikaru, fulgore, eko.
what do these names have in common? (Alumni)
gtfo.

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Posted by Comyt

funny since the entire first page disagreed until i said something then the usual butthurt people-who-know-nothing-about-spar come hating.

funny how eko, blaze, and fulgore all used to talk badly about thallen and (Alumni) when they were in (Deity) and now its turned to relentlessly sucking up to everything he says on the forums (blaze excluded).

funny how eko thinks he's good at sparring too but that's completely unrelated.

will also be extremely funny when this thread derails just because i posted in it and it would be even funnier if this got added.

keep the same towering system, stop trying to change the way things have been on graal for nearly 5 years just to benefit you and your little delaying guild, thallen.

if there's anything that needs to get changed about towering: it's the spawn location of the defenders of sardon's tower.

inb4 huge rage paragraphs, continued sucking up, failed attempts at a clever response, "umad" accusations and the usual unintelligent responses from unknowns.

Again, 1 extra tower. Nothing else changes. Read (I'm sure you can, as you boast of your intelligence constantly).