Okay, I can see there's no hurry to fix/return these bugs, and my suggestion about an NPC that sells the bugs no longer spawning isn't going to happen, but can I at least get a definitive answer to a couple questions?

Firstly, I never got any response regarding bees. We were told they were removed for the winter (because they were never supposed to spawn during the winter). Why have they not returned? Is this a mistake or working as intended?

Secondly, why exactly were cockroaches removed in the first place? Because they started spawning out of control like ladybugs? I noticed a few months back that their speed was significantly reduced. Could you not set their speed back to what it used to be? They were much harder to catch. It's the main reason no one ever really farmed them.

The railroad caves just feel so empty without them. And the bathrooms in the railroad shop just don't feel the same without roaches running around..

Posted by Dusty

There is harm when there are hundreds of them and they don't despawn, sadly.

But, as I came to realize, ladybugs are still spawning. You didn't remove them. You fixed the issue, and significantly lowered their value. So why did cockroaches have to be removed? Why are bees seemingly removed?

Bugs (insects, not glitches) are an important part of Classic, for earning gralats (which we all know there aren't a whole lot of different ways to go about doing), placement in houses (either as "trophies" or decor), and distinction between seasons (like how fireflies only spawn in fall, and a number of bugs only spawn in summer).

I don't like when bugs disappear abruptly. I still miss spiders..  

Posted by Narcosis

Firstly, I never got any response regarding bees. We were told they were removed for the winter (because they were never supposed to spawn during the winter). Why have they not returned? Is this a mistake or working as intended?

They're going until further notice. Having bugs that spawn due to player action was a mistake. Players found this out and found out how to make a lot of money.

Posted by Narcosis

Secondly, why exactly were cockroaches removed in the first place? Because they started spawning out of control like ladybugs?

Posted by Narcosis

I noticed a few months back that their speed was significantly reduced. Could you not set their speed back to what it used to be? They were much harder to catch. It's the main reason no one ever really farmed them.

They were slowed down because faster = more ticks = more cpu usage.

Posted by Narcosis

The railroad caves just feel so empty without them. And the bathrooms in the railroad shop just don't feel the same without roaches running around..

I miss them too.

Posted by Narcosis

But, as I came to realize, ladybugs are still spawning. You didn't remove them. You fixed the issue, and significantly lowered their value. So why did cockroaches have to be removed? Why are bees seemingly removed?

They may be working as intended... until they're not. That's the problem. We can't risk having bugs spawn out of control for days like the ladybugs were before. Players love not reporting this stuff so it's hard to notice.

Posted by Narcosis

Bugs (insects, not glitches) are an important part of Classic, for earning gralats (which we all know there aren't a whole lot of different ways to go about doing), placement in houses (either as "trophies" or decor), and distinction between seasons (like how fireflies only spawn in fall, and a number of bugs only spawn in summer).

I don't like when bugs disappear abruptly. I still miss spiders..

They are important, that's why a complete overhaul is needed to the entire system. Sadly this can't be done right now as there are more important things being worked on.  

How to catch ladybugs? Always when I try, they fly away and someone else catch them  

They have been a little laggier recently, along with the giant blob  

Posted by Dusty

Yes.

Posted by KristenGW

Cool thanks

Cough cough... bees haven't been 'fixed'.  

And to think I thought Ol west bug system was a mess lol  

will ladybugs go back to their previous value? I'm waiting to sell like 115 of them  

Posted by Dusty

They're going until further notice. Having bugs that spawn due to player action was a mistake. Players found this out and found out how to make a lot of money.

Well, with all due respect, "bee farming" had been going on for a very long time. The reason behind why people were suddenly making so much money (other than that brief period when the bee spawn rate was accidentally raised to like 100%) was the release of Destiny, and grass that spawned bees.

Bees have a chance of spawning from green gralats. That's how they're spawned (and obviously green gralats spawn much more frequently in grass than bushes). Originally it was just bushes that spawned bees. There were were a few grass locations that showed up, but they were small, and thus overcrowded anyway (especially once more people discovered them).

Destiny added a whole CRAPLOAD of bee-spawning grass.

The difference between farming bees in bushes and grass was night and day. And again, once more people discovered all these grass locations in Destiny, that's where they farmed. It was too lucrative, so bee prices were brutally nerfed. I guess I'm a tad confused as to why they're not spawning but ladybugs are. No one's making good money off bees anymore at their current value.

Speaking of ladybugs, they may still be spawning, but they're worth as much as a dragonfly. Would it be at all possible to re-classify the current non-bugged ladybugs and put back their original price? I love bug farming now that summer's here. But ladybugs have basically been removed from the equation given their incredibly minuscule sell value.

I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my messages, by the way, Dusty.  

Bee's will never be worthwhile after their 3x price nerf. It was nerfed wayyyy too hard, it probably needed one, but not to the point of where there isn't a point of doing it. Catching other bugs barely even seems worthwhile. I feel as if bugs could use a tiny bit of bump in selling pricing without hurting the graal economy too much (+1 to 5g), even though that probably won't happen. Other activity's just seem to outshine bug catching at the moment. I wouldn't really blame players for not reporting stuff since the in game reporting functions are pretty shady/not very good and a vast majority of Graal doesn't know graalians exists.  

Posted by Brett

Bee's will never be worthwhile after their 3x price nerf. It was nerfed wayyyy too hard, it probably needed one, but not to the point of where there isn't a point of doing it. Catching other bugs barely even seems worthwhile. I feel as if bugs could use a tiny bit of bump in selling pricing without hurting the graal economy too much (+1 to 5g), even though that probably won't happen. Other activity's just seem to outshine bug catching at the moment. I wouldn't really blame players for not reporting stuff since the in game reporting functions are pretty shady/not very good and a vast majority of Graal doesn't know graalians exists.

Well, that's true for 9 months out of the year. However, the summer season (which just started) introduces an influx of new bugs and high spawn rates. And even with the recent nerfs and removals is still the time to catch bugs.

But that is only 3 months out of the year. Winter has no bugs, Fall has very few, and Spring has some (though, with ladybugs now being near-worthless.. ehh).