Posted by Drake

I agree about how the GST shouldn't be hosted as often as people want. It wouldn't be as significant if it were hosted repeatedly in a year. For one, winning wouldn't be such a big deal if everyone knew there would be another GST in a couple months.

Though this may be an extravagant comparison, the Olympics are 4 years apart for the same reason. If the Olympics occured often, it wouldn't be as substantial as it is being every four years.

easy for the magus member to say...

how bout every 6 months?

classic does it every month!

Posted by Johnaudi

You guys do realize you're only agreeing together, straightforward to the same point? Lol...

Try to check the negative side effects for a change.

the whole gst was negative and your boss even called it a joke, how bout that?  

I tried to post that as a regular iEra player, read it again without interpreting it as something said by a magus member  

Posted by Drake

I agree about how the GST shouldn't be hosted as often as people want. It wouldn't be as significant if it were hosted repeatedly in a year. For one, winning wouldn't be such a big deal if everyone knew there would be another GST in a couple months.

Though this may be an extravagant comparison, the Olympics are 4 years apart for the same reason. If the Olympics occured often, it wouldn't be as substantial as it is being every four years.

The reason the olympics is 4 years apart is because its all across the world, have to give athletes a chance to compete in States or provinces, then nationals. Last there is government funding and getting all the athletes all into one city. Government then needs to decide where the events are going to be held. Then actually hosting the events. The olympics is not a great comparision to GST

Posted by lord greg

Smaller= more effective bar and pbp spamming.....

Really? I find Spam way worse in long range combat because the bullets are givin a chance to spread out.  

We're not going to copy classic's gst, it ruins the players' hype + literally any gang could get in, we're trying to give a use for Spar Score.

And do you really think everyone can get online at the same time as listed on the list? This would damage the saved variables in the database, especially if half the team is offline, it will take twice the time to set them up.

iEra doesn't have as much staff as classic does, we cannot handle 64 GSTs at once.  

Posted by Johnaudi

We're not going to copy classic's gst, it ruins the players' hype + literally any gang could get in, we're trying to give a use for Spar Score.

And do you really think everyone can get online at the same time as listed on the list? This would damage the saved variables in the database, especially if half the team is offline, it will take twice the time to set them up.

iEra doesn't have as much staff as classic does, we cannot handle 64 GSTs at once.

How would it ruin players hype? GST is a bunch of wumbo jumbo bullshit. I know i would be way more hyped up about GST once aq month since A. EC, if anything is for EC people are hyped about it. Events are hosted everyday and 100s of people rush to events house when they are announced, i say they're pumped up about events. B. it would NOT be some wumbo jumbo crap, but actually organised and my estimations is it would cut a GST time by half.

How will it take half the time if half of the team is offline? The leader would then have to select 3 people in his guild to substitute for the people offline as i stated in topic post.

If a team member did not show up you may pick a member from gang

Thats why there is creation of a GST administrations team, also I agree there is no way that a 64 man tornament can be held, therefore, the maximum of participants would be 12 guilds. Also with the addition of the GST team, YOU wouldn't be dealing with GST, the GST team would be dealing with it.

Also how about you quit being the devils advocate and start thinking of ideas to improve GST. You know GST is terrible when snk himself called GST a joke.  

I must admit, i do agree about the Gst team position, when events came out they created an events team, isn't this the same situation?  

Posted by Johnaudi

We're not going to copy classic's gst, it ruins the players' hype + literally any gang could get in, we're trying to give a use for Spar Score.

And do you really think everyone can get online at the same time as listed on the list? This would damage the saved variables in the database, especially if half the team is offline, it will take twice the time to set them up.

iEra doesn't have as much staff as classic does, we cannot handle 64 GSTs at once.

It doesn't ruin any hype, it is just better organized and players in-game actually know about it without having to go on a forum.

Yes, if you give a date for the GST it is up to people to get on to particpate.

Lmfao Classic doesn't have 64 gsts at once. They have 64 teams and about 2-3 teams spar at once, once there are less teams 1 team spars at once.  

also whats wrong with having anygang be in a tournament? If their bad, then they lose simple as that.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

also whats wrong with having anygang be in a tournament? If their bad, then they lose simple as that.

Stop cutting off my phrases and read the whole sentence.

Posted by Johnaudi

We're not going to copy classic's gst, it ruins the players' hype + literally any gang could get in, we're trying to give a use for Spar Score.

And do you really think everyone can get online at the same time as listed on the list? This would damage the saved variables in the database, especially if half the team is offline, it will take twice the time to set them up.

iEra doesn't have as much staff as classic does, we cannot handle 64 GSTs at once.

What you players think it's all that easy, you never look at the negative side. Try to be wise for once and think about it.  

Posted by Johnaudi

Stop cutting off my phrases and read the whole sentence.



What you players think it's all that easy, you never look at the negative side. Try to be wise for once and think about it.

The negative side, people get mad at each other or staff for a poorly hosted GST. They would also get bored of having a tournament every month, as it was a hassle just to even plan this one months ahead.  

Posted by Johnaudi

Stop cutting off my phrases and read the whole sentence.

Well thats hypocritical of you to say

Posted by Johnaudi

What you players think it's all that easy, you never look at the negative side. Try to be wise for once and think about it.

Okay heres the negitive side
Iron laws, some dumbass will eventually change the rules as in to give into the players
Registration
could give wrong ID# and admin warps wrong person
Thats the only negitives i can think of and let me tell you this its a hell of a lot more positive than this years GST that was ALL negative  

Posted by Johnaudi

Stop cutting off my phrases and read the whole sentence.



What you players think it's all that easy, you never look at the negative side. Try to be wise for once and think about it.

It should be easy to organize it once a year, sorry, no excuses, you and the rest of the staff blew it.

Maybe we just need better admins and better staff. Ones that are more worried about setting it up and running it properly and not actually competing in it. (Which goes back to alot of problems with admins in other aspects of the game)  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

Well thats hypocritical of you to say




Okay heres the negitive side
Iron laws, some dumbass will eventually change the rules as in to give into the players
Registration
could give wrong ID# and admin warps wrong person
Thats the only negitives i can think of and let me tell you this its a hell of a lot more positive than this years GST that was ALL negative

Those aren't negatives, we can make the leader select members from his gang (normal selection period).

Negatives :

• Time zones for several players trying to play with their teams, and would take twice the time for a staff member to know how to add him back to the list.
• Staff monitoring, this will not be as easy as you think, as we have 3/4 working and the others are either helping players or afk, remember this is going to take long so this won't positively work for a single staff member to watch and detain a 6 x 6 gmap level or somewhat. (+ I had to go off while being in the semi-finals and gave the relay to layerd, he was on his iOS device so it's really hard monitoring the players, for example)
• Graal bugs, the invisible trap thing was a graal bug, so are invisible players in a gmap, we can't fix that at all.
• Sign-up forms will be pushed and the first 64 forms will be sent at within the first hour, which gives a disadvantage at the opposing time zone player.
• @ The rules that says 'There is no sub gang', out of 64, I don't think a staff is going to analyze the leader of each gang 4096 times, and will compare it to the main account he has, having it as 16 was already hard enough.

Some of these are quite right, we know the GST turned up bad for several reasons, as we're trying to fix it for the next one. But suggesting such ideas are probably going to a bad frame.
I can look into some positive ones and implement them on the next GST hopefully.

tl;dr If this GST is going to be similar like Classic's, you obviously didn't know that the majority of her players comes on at one timezone. (they have 1700 players at night, and 700 at morning for me)  

John quit it with the timezone excuse, Classic has just as many players or more from different timezones yet they get a time set and if people wanna particpate they have to be on during that time.  

Posted by Seabiscuit

John quit it with the timezone excuse, Classic has just as many players or more from different timezones yet they get a time set and if people wanna particpate they have to be on during that time.

So you think it's fun hosting a round at 4 am in the morning? Get in the other person's mind before making up such stuff.