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Rusix · 04-18-2018

Posted by Westbrook Graal

https://imgur.com/a/V2GPG
I highlighted a few of the main issues in your "level" but there's multiple other ones I didn't bother to highlight and not only will there probably be more problems if I looked further, but there's a lot of things that make the level sort of ugly.

It's clear you used a random ios app you have no experience in on your free time to design a village. That level, while you may feel proud of it, isn't good enough to be released in an MMORPG with thousands of players, let alone any decent game. On top of all the problems i mentioned earlier, it's an extremely boring level. There's nothing interesting about it that would make you want to explore, and it's an extremely bland generic village.

As far as I remember, you lied about having a 10k-100 spar record or something so no offense I can't take your word for it on "45 minutes." I've done levels with tons of various softwares, and never have I designed anything even close to that timeframe. Even a basic RPGMAKER level takes an hour or two (provided I'm actually making it look nice.)

With this in mind, factor in how outdated the levels editor is. Pics1 is a jumbled mess. Unlike most other levelling tools for other games, there's been no update to the one the devs use.

It's clear you don't have any info on this topic, so I don't know why you're talking like you do. If the dev team put out the level you made as a "new town", they'd get raided for a "lack of effort."

Not only that, you have to remember that there needs to be stuff done in the levels. Once the staff have actually built the cliffs, trees etc; using the terribly formatted tools, they still have to add in all the NPCs, shops, quests, baddies etc; that make the level unique from the others.

Like crono said, you should open up the editor, and try to design something as good as MoD town in "2 hours." If you watch any tutorials on youtube, that factors into the time because according to you, you can legit just get a level put out in 2 hours, starting from when you open your laptop. I guarantee you, you'll fail to put out a decent level in 2 hours.

And as for what you said about changing the tileset, that's also not as easy as it sounds. You can't just wish for a new tileset and get one. And if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure if you suddenly switched the tileset, the rest of the world would get messed up.

For one, I made it on the Unreal engine, 4.18 which I just updated it to 4.19 yesterday, to be exact, Not a IOS app. And I don't even think you even can make levels in a mobile device as I pretty sure most game engines dont run on any mobile platform. if you paid attention to anything I said, I said I pretty much only made the level only to use the tileset and mess around with it to see what the animations, and what not would look like not so much to create a serious level. Not sure if you just over read that or you just didn't understand it. That's the only level i have on my School PC which was the only one i could show at the time.I could list a thousand things as well about why it isn't a serious level. Like too many layers, Ect.

And secondly, It was a 10k-600 or something, Which was more so meant to be a joke to piss off Sarah. Which i thought that was already well known? Worked before to make her spar me so I used it again. And although she didn't spar it was still worth it. Not sure why you're bringing up an obvious joke from like what 6 months ago?

Thirdly I'm gonna be using the playerworlds level editor tonight, I don't know why id be watching YouTube tutorials when I already know how to make levels and have been for like years now, I already know how to set collison, Set up GUI, Animations, plus I've made levels from tilesets that was pretty messy ( Not as messy as classic's but regardless still messy). Like when I made a level for the Solarus team, Which only took slightly over an hour. But as Crono said I'll try to create a level like swamptown tonight in about 2 hours or so.

And you are correct, If classic switched the tileset right now to a new one it would mess up. Mainly on appearance i assume Collison would likely remain the same as its a different thing in itself. But what I was suggesting was not so much a new tileset to switch out the old one but a new one that the devs could use in the future. Example being they keep the old one which keeps all the progress in classic but a new tileset for say Interior, overworld, Ect. So if they need to create something instead of making it with the old tileset they could make it with the new organized tileset.