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PigParty · 06-23-2017

Posted by MrSimons

And here we have the Holy Bible literally commanding genocide.

Deuteronomy 20:16 - 18

"However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God."

Point is, you're reading a book written by people living in one of the most violent times in history, in one of the most war-devastated parts of the world. Religious violence is totally not exclusive to Islam, and it shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone that any religion preached it at one point.

So hey if you want to blame today's problems on verses written over 1000 years ago, or people who don't follow those parts of the Quran, have at it. But if you ask me, those verses aren't the problem, the radicals that are committing acts of terror are.

bravo. Must spread rep first.

Posted by Fulgore

While I agree, the religions and their followers are still very different and play a role in it. Islam just needs to fast forward 1000 years and modernize. The secular values of the west are what get rid of a lot of the issues here, but when Islam is permeating through every possible social construct, governing system, and way of life, you get things like this.

They are different, but I view that the problem may be that the governments have used religion as an excuse to create laws, justify unjustifiable actions, etc. in order to maintain power. I think that it's a cultural & governance issue, and that the religion has been the justification because it was an easy excuse to use. It doesn't help that the Middle-East has been and is unstable, ans that Western countries have played a significant role into the destabilization.

I think of it like this: Did England's monarchy rule use the Catholic church, or vice versa. I guess it's a matter of who corrupted who.

I 100% agree, though, that they are behind the times. But they aren't anything different than what we've seen before. There does need to be extreme modernization. I think that starts with the governments, though, rather than the religion. I think it would have a domino effect. Fix the governments, and everything will eventually fall into place.