Explain to me how killing a born child is no different? A 10 month old baby is not fully developed, and won't be for many years. Just because the baby is at a lower stage in development and not visible, doesn't make it any different. Your belief disagrees with mine, so I'm the one beyong the point of no return? Doesn't seem like a very reasonable thing to say. I'm supposed to suddenly believe that everything you say is correct? Why is your belief correct, and mine is incorrect? I don't like discussions where someone automatically assumes they're right and other beliefs are wrong. The whole point of the discussion is to express your own opinion, and potentially sway other's beliefs, not to assume your statements are fact and mine are wrong. No point of having a discussion if that's the case.