Couple things:
1. Where's all my whiteknights doing their best to save this thread derailment?

2. You noobs dare interrupt my irrelevant argument to go on a 4 page rant about the queen?
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I don't get what GOAT is expecting out of a guild. If they're best at something they're good. Do they need to be a charity who support Graal orphans? What are you expecting out of a video game guild?
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I don't expect anything. Let me explain how subjective internet arguments work. I say something then someone disagrees. I will not change their mind and they will not change my mind. The only thing that can be done is both sides making their points as to why they think they're right and the winner is only known by the individuals themselves. Example I made my point below and I feel my original comment stands. Whether the people I'm arguing with agree or disagree is irrelevant to me. I don't expect them to agree that their guild or their friends guild is not as important as they would like it to be.
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I didn't mention them, that was you
But they have been one of the most relevant guilds on the game
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Yeah that's the whole point. Take away un spar and GST and
nobody mentions them. Take away Guild wars and GST and they would still be mentioned. Take away un spar and guild wars and they would obviously still be mentioned.
Top 3 most important guilds and But they have been one of the most relevant guilds on the game is 2 different things.
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Wtf you are complaining about that rare time I'm lag spiking when there are 4K+ on?? I'm sure I'm not the only one lagging when 4k are on and you are talking as if I lag 24/7. Spar me when less are on I don't even lag, wish I could record but I'm not jail broken anymore though I uploaded plenty of videos of myself sparring and I wasn't lagging. Btw if you see someone lagging it's reciprocal. If it wasn't a practice spar I wouldn't have joined if I lagged.
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