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02-22-2016
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Hyrule Knights
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: In your head 24/7
Posts: 6,348
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I still think you are missing the point. No one is forcing you to take on debt for having kids, you're doing that to yourself by having kids.
That's like saying that you are being forced to take on debt when you by a house because your job doesn't pay you enough for you to afford a house. If you don't have the funds to do something don't do it; rather than doing it then blaming the system when you go into a lifetime of debt because of your own crappy decision.
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You don't need to make crappy decisions to go into a lifetime of debt. Ask college students in debt. The fact that the US doesn't have any federal mandate on some paid maternity leave is clearly a flaw on the system. FYI the US has many flaws in the system, so it is okay to blame the system in certain cases.
3. To be honest, if I was a business owner (the person paying your maternal leave) I don't give a **** if you want to have kids in your twenties. Thats money that'd be coming out of the business I am trying to run because you "need" to have kids now, instead of waiting 10 years when you are financially stable. - Why should I, a business owner, have to sacrifice my recourses because you are too impatient to have a kid in 10 years when you can actually afford it?
But what if this has nothing to do with being able to "afford" a kid. Maybe some parents want to have the perk of being able to spend some time with their newborn without having to reach into their savings.
- Does just the general idea of having a kid when you are 20 years old, financially instable, and most likely mentally immature honestly sound like a good idea to you? Is that the kind of person we want to be parents, people who can't wait to have kids so they do it anyway when they *should* know they can't afford it?
Those people don't care about paid maternity leave, the government ends up supporting them anyways 
- Are you actually sure most people want to have kids in their twenties, because I have never heard of that, I know this is anecdotal but everyone I have met wants kids in their twenties, you know, when they are out of college and have a career lined up.
What? You ask him if he's sure then you validate his point !wat! When people want to have kids is irrelevant what should matter is when they actually have them. Someone might want to start having kids at 30, but hey sh1t happens.
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I'm not against poor people having kids, I'm against unstable people having kids.
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I'm not an expert here, but I would assume that a majority of low income families ask for government support anyways, so regardless if they have paid maternity leave they will still receive assistance.
FYI being poor would make you unstable financially anyways lol
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